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		Between about 1975 and 1992/93 32 Battalion of the South African Defence Force was, in some respects, the most militarily successful unit in the SADF. Made up of black African soldiers with mainly white officers, etc, it was feared by their enemies and, generally, admired by the rest of the SADF. Why is it not in the South African Orbat for that period? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Because nobody ever ASKED for them before now and given the OOB has existed well over a decade and you are the first to mention it is a good indicator why 
   
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				Because nobody ever ASKED for them before now and given the OOB has existed well over a decade and you are the first to mention it is a good indicator why 
   
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 The Recces were more like the RSA version of the SAS, whereas 32 Battalion was a very high class, specialist Light Infantry battalion. It is a major gap in the SADF orbat, if you will forgive my saying so.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		It could be added as standard motorized or foot infantry with boosts, similar to British Guard/Gurka Companies. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				It could be added as standard motorized or foot infantry with boosts, similar to British Guard/Gurka Companies. 
			
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 To be honest I would say that 32 Battalion would be to standard SADF infantry something like the Royal Marines or Paras  relative to standard British infantry.
 
Recce Commandos were somewhere up, fairly close, to the SAS and Rhodesian SAS, 32 Battalion needs to be between that and standard infantry, bearing in mind they did both conventional and semi-guerrilla warfare. To be honest I'm very surprised no one has mentioned this iconic unit before.
 
In terms of effectiveness against SWAPO 32 Battalion were second to none.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8S3UHsblxs
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		I can remember some of this stuff making the evening news here at the time. If it's being considered than a little background data is needed. 
http://specialoperations.com/28703/t...-32-battalion/ 
http://www.vice.com/read/32-battalion-409-v17n4 
http://www.32battalion.net/ 
http://www.rhodesia.nl/sword.htm 
http://www.volkstaat.net/index.php?o...ire&Itemid=173
Good dope for someone in the scenario/campaign business. 
 http://sadf.info/SWATF%20Operations.html 
http://www.32va.co.za/index.php
The USMC analysis of the Angolan Conflict.
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		Hey IronDuke99, you may consider building the formations of this unit in MobHack. Build the formations in slots above 900. Save the modified OOB for others to use in scenario building. 
 
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		32 Battalion was armed like any other South African infantry battalion.  Ramp up the morale and experience when using them. 
 
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