How to prevent a unit from assaulting?

Anton · #1 June 2nd, 2019, 05:10 PM

When an unsuppressed infantry squad with many action points attacks an AFV in an adjacent hex, it makes an assault. Whereas my assaults against AFV's fail so often, I should rather prefer a regular attack with all the weapons, but how do I tell my squad not to assault?

Where is the assault mechanics described in the guide?

Mobhack · #2 June 2nd, 2019, 05:19 PM

Fire just one weapon (the PIAT say) by using the W key.

Anton · #3 June 2nd, 2019, 05:30 PM

That's an option, but I might want to fire all for suppression.

Imp · #4 June 2nd, 2019, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Anton

That's an option, but I might want to fire all for suppression.

Tough - best option if have the movement points is fire the AT weapon with the W key then assault it.

Anton · #5 June 3rd, 2019, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Imp

Tough - best option if have the movement points is fire the AT weapon with the W key then assault it.

How do I know if it's going to assault or simply to fire?

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Originally Posted by Imp

Assaulting can be an issue if all you have is a grenade, they could even suffer tank panic.
Just saying I like doing it the above way as you get 2 attempts, hopefully the AT weapon hit in which case it will be suppressed.
Must admit I love sneaking up on a tank from the rear, hard to pull off and only worth risking if you have support.

Fire AT and then assault. You must have been stationary to do that? Will it make any difference or take more action points if I fire all the weapons instead of AT only before assaulting?

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Originally Posted by zovs66

When playing as the Germans my infantry is usually 7 out of 10 (give or take 2). As the British or US at least 4 or 5 out of 10. You have to sneak up on the tanks or let them run into you.

What do these numbers mean?

Anyway, the subject of this thread is not infantry tactics but the WinSPWW2 engine, which allows very fine control such as reaction filtering and selection of individual weapons but fails to the let the user decide whether a squad is to assault or to fire. Would not a separate command for assaulting be helpful?

Imp · #6 June 3rd, 2019, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Anton

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Originally Posted by Imp

Tough - best option if have the movement points is fire the AT weapon with the W key then assault it.

How do I know if it's going to assault or simply to fire?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imp

Assaulting can be an issue if all you have is a grenade, they could even suffer tank panic.
Just saying I like doing it the above way as you get 2 attempts, hopefully the AT weapon hit in which case it will be suppressed.
Must admit I love sneaking up on a tank from the rear, hard to pull off and only worth risking if you have support.

Fire AT and then assault. You must have been stationary to do that? Will it make any difference or take more action points if I fire all the weapons instead of AT only before assaulting?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zovs66

When playing as the Germans my infantry is usually 7 out of 10 (give or take 2). As the British or US at least 4 or 5 out of 10. You have to sneak up on the tanks or let them run into you.

What do these numbers mean?

Anyway, the subject of this thread is not infantry tactics but the WinSPWW2 engine, which allows very fine control such as reaction filtering and selection of individual weapons but fails to the let the user decide whether a squad is to assault or to fire. Would not a separate command for assaulting be helpful?

If it’s not got enough MP or is pinned it’s going to fire.

Of course stationary, stationary has a much higher success rate if possible you ambush rather than move to assault. That said once one assault has started I will hit him with everyone that can.

Will it make any difference etc - yes it will probably assault if possible as already stated.

zovs66 · #7 June 2nd, 2019, 09:04 PM

Infantry assaulting tanks is usually the best way to kill tanks up close, better if in woods, better if you are hidden and surprise and better yet is when they veteran or higher experienced levels. Morale of the story don’t drive tanks near good hidden or experienced infantry with or without AT weapons.

zovs66 · #8 June 2nd, 2019, 09:08 PM

When playing as the Germans my infantry is usually 7 out of 10 (give or take 2). As the British or US at least 4 or 5 out of 10. You have to sneak up on the tanks or let them run into you.

Combined Arms is much better however, with mutually supporting arms.

Imp · #9 June 3rd, 2019, 01:40 AM

Assaulting can be an issue if all you have is a grenade, they could even suffer tank panic.
Just saying I like doing it the above way as you get 2 attempts, hopefully the AT weapon hit in which case it will be suppressed.
Must admit I love sneaking up on a tank from the rear, hard to pull off and only worth risking if you have support.

sigeena · #10 June 3rd, 2019, 09:08 PM

More often than not, you'll want to assault for better payoff in destroying the tank. So I don't really find a special key just to fire off all your weapons as very useful.

I think at least 3 points remaining to assault? With higher probability of success depending on higher movement points available.