Base Training

[Phoenix-D]

With the latest patch, you can no longer fleet with bases- to fix the resupply issue.

OK, but I think another can of worms just opened. Defensive bases are now taking AT LEAST a 20% penalty to both attack and defense. You can no longer fleet them, so they can't get the fleet defensive bonus! And if you're using them for WP defense, you can't ship train them unless you're pyhic. -40. Owww..

Now, how do we fix that? Aside from letting bases fleet..

Phoenix-D

[Arkcon]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
With the latest patch, you can no longer fleet with bases- to fix the resupply issue.

OK, but I think another can of worms just opened. Defensive bases are now taking AT LEAST a 20% penalty to both attack and defense. You can no longer fleet them, so they can't get the fleet defensive bonus! And if you're using them for WP defense, you can't ship train them unless you're pyhic. -40. Owww..

Now, how do we fix that? Aside from letting bases fleet..

Phoenix-D

1) No fleet bonus - I dunno how to fix this. Except to rationalize that the base isn't in fleet formation, so it should't acquire fleet experience. How does the base acquire any defence bonus -- "Now we don't have thrusters, so when the APB comes our way, everyone run to Sector G at once and we'll tilt the base out of the way"

2) No ship training at warp points - well, if the crew is undergoing intensive combat readyness training, maybe we can mimic that with a base only training component. Wasn't Elowan working on that? Or maybe some base only component - battle simulator holodeck or some such technobabble - that gives the base a bonus.

[ September 23, 2002, 23:14: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

[Sinapus]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
With the latest patch, you can no longer fleet with bases- to fix the resupply issue.

OK, but I think another can of worms just opened. Defensive bases are now taking AT LEAST a 20% penalty to both attack and defense. You can no longer fleet them, so they can't get the fleet defensive bonus! And if you're using them for WP defense, you can't ship train them unless you're pyhic. -40. Owww..

Now, how do we fix that? Aside from letting bases fleet..

Phoenix-D

Well... there is a flag in settings.txt that lets you fleet bases, but that isn't what you're looking for.

[Mylon]

Originally posted by Arkcon:
1) No fleet bonus - I dunno how to fix this. Except to rationalize that the base isn't in fleet formation, so it should't acquire fleet experience. How does the base acquire any defence bonus -- "Now we don't have thrusters, so when the APB comes our way, everyone run to Sector G at once and we'll tilt the base out of the way"

Hehe... That's good. But if you want to give bases that extra 20% to hit and 20% to be missed, why not just adjust the base bonuses on the base design itself?

[spoon]

Maybe they shouldn't have defensive bonuses anyway -- they just sit still in space like a big target, right? And don't their mounts give bonuses to hit already?

-Spoon

[Baron Grazic]

It seems that this Gives Psychic an extra bonus, so perhaps change it so that Bases don't get any experiance at all.