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Old March 17th, 2003, 01:33 PM

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Default Pirates shipset Version 2.0 available

I would like to create an original AI for the pirates shipset.
As TDM seems to be the best mod for good AIs, perhaps I will make it for that mod.

So I would like to know :

- Are AI files very different than in unmodded game ?

- What make races smarter with that mod ?

- Does TDM AIs still working in unmodded game ? (even if they are less efficient)

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Old March 18th, 2003, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: Pirates shipset Version 2.0 available

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- Are AI files very different than in unmodded game ?
No, they are exactly the same as the unmodded game. TDM does not change the techs or any other aspect of the game: It just improves the AI for the standard game.

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- What make races smarter with that mod ?
The same things that make the Ai smarter for the standard game.

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- Does TDM AIs still working in unmodded game ?
Yes, see above.

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(even if they are less efficient)
They aren't.

Perhaps you could attempt an AI for the P&N mod, seeing as it's a pirate shipset. That would be cool.
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Default Re: Pirates shipset Version 2.0 available

I haven't understooden everything...
What is the diference between TDM and Unmodded game if everything is identical ???

AI for P&N : Suicide Junkie himself wrote somewhere that playing a Pirate Race was far two difficult for the poor SE IV AI. ( I find it far too difficult for me as a human player indeed...)
So I think it would be a waste of time.
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Default Re: Pirates shipset Version 2.0 available

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I haven't understooden everything...
What is the diference between TDM and Unmodded game if everything is identical ???
The AI files are the difference.

The Data files (with the tech tree, components, facilities, etc, etc), are exactly the same.
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Old March 17th, 2003, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: Pirates shipset Version 2.0 available

Dogscoff confused things (as usual )

TDM is a standard game with more elaborate AI files. People just went through files and paid details to minute things that all the importance for AI performance, like optimized research, better ships design, efficient ship building, etc.
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Old March 17th, 2003, 11:21 PM

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Default Re: Pirates shipset Version 2.0 available

Now I got it. In fact, TDM is not a mod, it's only a "advanced shipset collection"...

Well, I've got now to create a good AI for my pirate race, with TDM races as models.

Dogscoff have suggested me to create a colorful speech file with typical pirate language, but i'm afraid my poor english vocabulary is a bit weak for that. Would someone be interested in witing that file ?
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