Debate on North Korea.

[Thermodyne]

Debate on North Korea.

I think this problem deserves its own thread. It is equally as serious as Iraq, just not as easily solvable. The north has the bomb, and the country is a very small place. It would be like having a hand grenade battle in a phone booth. Everyone would loose. In any war, the south would be badly damaged, and the north would never allow us ½ a year to build up our forces. So what to do? Personally I feel that this has to be handled with diplomacy, and if the new leaders of China want it to end, it will. If (I said if) we go to war in Korea, it would be much like the Last war, but perhaps with out the help that was given to the NK’s Last time. We should remember that it was a Soviet gambit that caused the war, China was very unhappy about it. And the Chicom direct involvement destabilized their government and led to a cooling of relations with the USSR. This cooling resulted in a shooting war some years later. Today, American air power would carry the war, but not save the south from being destroyed. If the north used a nuke, then we would be closer to the beginning of the end than ever before. Personally, I think this is a job for the Chicoms. It is their client and their front yard. They are best positioned to handle the situation. Also it is time for the south to provide for their own defense.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Thermodyne:
Debate on North Korea.

Personally, I think this is a job for the Chicoms. It is their client and their front yard. They are best positioned to handle the situation. .

Maybe NK is actually doing what the Chinesse wants them to do?

[Perrin]

Originally posted by Aloofi:
Maybe NK is actually doing what the Chinesse wants them to do?

This may be true. However my impression of the Chinese is that they would rather be left alone. I don't think China would want North Korea to stir things up so that the attention of the US gets focused on that part of the world.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Perrin:
This may be true. However my impression of the Chinese is that they would rather be left alone. .

Maybe that's the impression they want to give.

[Foiden]

I don't know. I think it is a lot of adieu to make weapons in which it is stupid to use, in the first place. Oooh, nuclear weapons, when the very people they are trying to threaten with them is too close. It's amazing how people will repeat the same mistakes because they can't learn until they do it themselves. We already learned quickly about the futility and self-damaging effects of nuclear weapons, but some people don't realize that by far nukes are a double-edged sword, except worse. Imagine the double blade also being the handle. Its use is like some desperation act of taking your enemies out along with yourselves.

The weapons they want are not surgical with harmful effects that not only carry in wind, water, and soil, but possibly have half-lifes. And if they do use them, the effects will probably bleed into their own country and kill their own people off.

Or they just want some trophies to sit by doing nothing, but costing them loads of money to make, just to have a local health hazard, with hopes that nothing leaks into their water or other supply lines. I don't know. It sounds like somebody declaring to the world that they wanna commit suicide. Like the above poster said, it's like wanting a grenade when everybody is in the telephone booth with you.

[Aloofi]

But the world is such a big bad phone booth that some tiny countries need to threat their enemies to blow themselves up with them to keep them from invading.
You gotta be realistic. Only a nuclear power can deterrence conventional war.