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		There's a serious lack of maps with ~80 provinces ... 
 
Aran : 107 provinces, 11 of these are under water 
Chandrea - The Dunken Donut : 102 provinces, 17 are water 
Albatha : 69 provinces, 13 of them  seas 
Brittain : 68 provinces 
The Sundering: 61 provinces, 10 of these are under water 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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There's a serious lack of maps with ~80 provinces ... 
 
Aran : 107 provinces, 11 of these are under water 
Chandrea - The Dunken Donut : 102 provinces, 17 are water 
Albatha : 69 provinces, 13 of them  seas 
Brittain : 68 provinces 
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 I would vote for the sundering, makes a nice change from Urgaia.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		No one has commented on my proposal for when this game will actually be played.  If people really intend for this to be a blitz start, that is the most important piece of info to agree on.   Should I take your silence as agreement? 
Griffin responded to my PM.  He does not have an irc client but gave me his email so hopefully we can get him up and running in time.
 
Hahahah, Q.  Sundering with 6 people will be nuts!  But I will play it if that is what people want.  Sundering or Aran - either is fine with me.
 
As for teams, I would like to be on a team with msew.  We play many games together and are frequently enemies so this will be a nice change.  If someone else wants to be the third player on the team of me and msew then we will have a team division ready to go...
 
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Timing:  
Ok, I have a really important question:  when are we playing on Sunday?   So that people can know when to show up in irc.   I would propose: 
 
11:00am Pacific Time (PT) 
 
Which works out to 2pm for east coast US and 8pm for Arralen (who is +1 GMT I believe?). 
 
IRC:  
Additionally, I have noted that everyone is posting regularly except for GriffinOfBuerring.  I PM'd him yesterday to see if he had an irc client (i know everyone else does) but I havent heard back from him.  As this is a team game, we can't handle 1 player deciding not to show up... 
 
Maps:  
Also, about maps: doesnt Aran only have 80 provs?  100 maybe?  I cant check right now.   How many does Sundering have? 
 
Teaming: 
I propose that we play a 3x3 team game.  With only 2 teams, there will be no double-teaming, or waiting around clamming/fetishing for hundreds of turns.  It will just be a straight up slugging match!  
			
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		Oh, thinking 'bout it .. Sundering wouldn't be so great.. 
 
I thought having a Blitz Start on Sunday 19:00 GMT was set from the beginning?? 
 
What "sites" setting will we use? 
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As for teams, I would like to be on a team with msew.  We play many games together and are frequently enemies so this will be a nice change.  If someone else wants to be the third player on the team of me and msew then we will have a team division ready to go... 
 
 
			
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 okie
 
one team is ironhawk + msew + ???????????
 
who wants to be on our team?
 
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nice high number for massive mega death spells and items and such.
 
Dom2 is supposed to be about war.  Not building up for 50 turns and then chain summoning crap onto people's provinces.
 
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70 
 
nice high number for massive mega death spells and items and such. 
 
 
Dom2 is supposed to be about war.  Not building up for 50 turns and then chain summoning crap onto people's provinces. 
 
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 Not that I am opposed to the 70 site frequency, but doesn't having a high site percentage just hasten the time to the chain summoning extravaganza of which you spoke?   
I'll be happy to be on Ironhawks and msew's team if they will have me, though I'm not sure I'm doing them huge favors by volunteering   
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Not that I am opposed to the 70 site frequency, but doesn't having a high site percentage just hasten the time to the chain summoning extravaganza of which you spoke?   
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 yes and no
 
-to get to chain summoning you need to have high research.  which is why we have research set to high
 
-high gems means you are able to "splurge" on spells to attack with and make items.  VS  I need to save up my gems for chain summoning
 
-so certainly some dude can research and get gems for chain summoning.  But his opponents are going to have a lot of gems to be able to just attack attack attack with.  Without fear of "wasting" the gems in battle.  Plenty more where those came from!
 
-no need to worry about :  Should I spend 20 gems to make this item or should I save them for my summoning spell?   MAKE THE ITEM!  AND ATTACK!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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I'll be happy to be on Ironhawks and msew's team if they will have me, though I'm not sure I'm doing them huge favors by volunteering   
 
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 kk that works
 
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