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				 Getting Heroes to appear 
   I am assuming heroes appearing at your gate are a random event. Typically I use an Order 1 dominion, and set random events on rare. 
 Some long games go by with me only getting 1 hero, even though i am getting many random events due to map size. Would taking luck 1 help significantly getting heroes to appear?
 
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				February 19th, 2007, 10:41 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Getting Heroes to appear 
 Afaik you have a chance of 3% per turn to get a hero and your luck scale modify this chance --> per point of luck or missfortune +- 1%. So if you have Missfortune 3 you never get your heroes. |  
	
		
	
	
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				February 19th, 2007, 10:44 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Getting Heroes to appear 
 Luck directly affects the change of a hero appearing. I'm not sure of the exact numbers, but it's something like 3% chance for a hero to appear each turn, +/- 1 per Luck scale. Taking Misfortune 3 makes heroes unavailable, and taking Luck 3 makes them twice as likely to appear.  
However, even with Luck, you might get unlucky and not get many heroes even in a long game. 
 
If you want to see heroes, I suggest playing with more default settings and taking Luck 3. It doesn't produce quite as reliable income as Order, so you might end upo a bit tight on money in the early game, but all the events add up very nicely in my experience. Many other players' opinions are quite different, though.   |  
	
		
	
	
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				February 19th, 2007, 12:05 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Getting Heroes to appear 
 Whenever I play with Luck +3 I always get heroes appearing early and often. |  
	
		
	
	
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				February 19th, 2007, 03:55 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Getting Heroes to appear 
 Make sure you play with the Worthy Heroes Mod too.  Then, when you actually do get a hero, you are really psyched! |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Getting Heroes to appear 
 
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		| Ironhawk said: Make sure you play with the Worthy Heroes Mod too.  Then, when you actually do get a hero, you are really psyched!
 
 |  I agree many of the default heroes in DOM_3... are not really heroes.
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				February 19th, 2007, 07:45 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Getting Heroes to appear 
 Quite a lot of nations only have one or even no heroes. I made a list of heroes in the worthy heroes thread, so maybe you can´t even get a hero if you play oceania for example.
 
 Even if you have a nation with lots of heroes the chance for a hero to appear is really random. I made quite a lot of 400+ turns testgames and even with luck3 it can take 100+ turns until a hero shows up.
 In addition it seems as if the chance to get a hero is less than 6% with luck 3 or there are some other modifiers, since no nation got more than the expected one hero per 16 turns and most got significantly less.
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				 Re: Getting Heroes to appear 
 Most of the heroes are heroes more in the RPG sense than in the SC (SuperCombatants) sense. They definetly arent Super Heroes. 
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				 Re: Getting Heroes to appear 
 Playing MA Ermor, I got the hero who is Ermors executioner, he has a weapon which sends victims to hell, the inferno I think. 
However, he is a 8 hp mage!  So groovy weapon made utterly useless, as he wouldn't survive in melee very long, even if I kitted him out with magic items galore.
 
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 you could empower him up to 6 astral (9 with items) and have him wish for power... that'd make him more survivable... |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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