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June 3rd, 2008, 01:50 AM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
After some intense gaming I've come up with a few notes.
- Combat Divers formation seems to have the wrong info text, Combat Divers+ has the correct one
- I can't seem to find a ATGM Platoon/Mech formation using the Spike missile.
- The SPA Battalion formation seems to be missing. I recall having it in the earlier version. Was it removed on purpose?
- The Arctic Leopards scenario has the Mech BG Co driving a Leopard 2. Is this where the mysterious 29th Leopard in a BG goes, because I've really been wondering on this one
I've also been experimenting with some scenario design ideas, but so far they haven't been exactly what I was looking for. The few defencive scenarios I made were fun to design but not exactly a thrill to play since all you get to do is sit there and wait for the enemy to come and eat some HEAT. The best success so far I've had with a scenario involving military police retaking a supply facility from special forces. I think I'll try and make a Mech BG assault, and currently I'm toying with a nice twist. In stead of the same old Fin-Rus battles I might make it against our ancient enemies, the dreaded Swedes!
Edit: Never mind the Mech ATGM, found it.
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June 6th, 2008, 07:36 AM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
-Affermative on Combat Divers' text
-SPA battalion is there, Formation 152 from 91 to 2020
-That's the 29th
Also fixed since upload:
-few better/remade pictures
-changed T-54/55 icons to the "black/green" camo ones
-Made 2 Leo company formations; one for PzJBn, other for Mech. In latter you get a BMP-1TJ, the other has normal CV, not a FO capable one as before... Otherwise they are identical.
Hmm... A Mech BG assault scenario with all the units on a huge map (ala Ulf Lundstrom)... Worth a try! If you read "Panssari" -Magazine, you find all the info there. An attack along 2 main attack routes would be doable, as if you only have 1 route, all the units won't fit in the game area's size limit in column formation. I may make a full Panzer Jaeger Battalion's attack scenario, if I find the time...
Zip
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June 6th, 2008, 09:35 AM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Yeah, there it is, the SPA Battalion. Man, I could've sworn it wasn't there when I checked, just like the Mech ATGM. I wonder if I was playing with the standard OOB by accident
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June 25th, 2008, 05:13 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Edited (re-rearranged, backwards-engineering ) the whole OOB so, that now all data from default OOB is on same place in my mod, which means that you can play any scenario involving Finland created using default OOB with the mod's OOB installed without any problems. All the units that do not exist in my OOB but do in default (ISU-152, XA-203+ etc.), are given nation=0, which means they will be used by scenarios using the unit, but the units will not show in encyclopedia nor in buy screen. Otherwise the OOB works and plays just like the current version (except I gave up with the airstrikes, now they're the same as in default with just little edits...), but of course old saves/scenarios with the mod won't work. But it'll hurt only once - the benefit will hopefully overcome the possible negative effects.
Also edited Inf Platoon / Torjuntakomppania so that the previous "support section" (which housed all the Apilas and sniper rifles) is broken into 2 AT-Patrols and 2 snipers, making it more useable and also giving the sniper rifles the accuracy bonuses from the sniper unit.
Also added ITO 05 and 05M formations 2007->.
I will release it shortly and hopefully it'll help reduce unnecessary OOB swapping
Zip
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June 30th, 2008, 07:25 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
OK, newest version (6.0) ready to download! See the 1st post and there you'll also find the attachment!
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July 1st, 2008, 09:10 AM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Awesome! Another new scenario! I'll give it a try right away. Also I like what you've done with the readme file.
-Koh
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July 1st, 2008, 01:25 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Ok, a few notes.
- The SPA Battalion seems to have the first battery operating landing crafts in stead of SPA pieces. I'm almost sure this is not an intended feature
- The spec jaegers no longer have the AGL they had in an earlier version, while the AGL section unit info still describes them being used by special jaegers. Was this intentional?
- The readme instructs you to unzip unit_pics.zip while the file is actually called pictures.zip.
Other than that, great work! The OOB is better than ever and the new scenario was extremely enjoyable to play.
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July 1st, 2008, 02:24 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Will take a look, thanks!
Did you notice the increased difficulty in Arctic Leopards?
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July 5th, 2008, 04:23 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
OK, bug with SPA Bn fixed. Also some little tweaks done, such as wrong small arms (RK) on support units early on changed to more correct ones. The AGL+Spec Jgr (or lack of) is intentional. Will fix readme. With the fix there'll also be AI picklists for the mod, so you may now play against modded finns with AI bying more rationally. The finnish AI is very infantry heavy, especially pre-1980s. I've written then up till 91 now, so will take some time to finish.
Zip
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July 6th, 2008, 06:35 AM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Great stuff man . Btw, how I can get those great sound files work with other nations too? It could be cool to hear with others too ...
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