windows xp or vista???

[Bwaha]

I'm sorry, your last bit I didn't get, could you type slower?... I don't speak computer and my eyes glaze over when people talk tec. Its a foreign language to me. For decades I resisted using computers, so my skills are non-existent. Its my fault and I freely admit my shortcomings. So please be gentle when explaining things. I was just sharing my experiences with you. I had hoped for a little help with my bot, and I figure that you guys and gals know way more about computers than I do. BTW I am a certified Industrial Coatings Consultant, so if you have a problem with a coating just let me know. Anyway have a nice day, I'm on to happier thoughts...

[AgentZero]

Well, problems with drivers (sound or otherwise) are the responsibility of whoever made the hardware, yet for some reason people seem to prefer to lay the blame at Microsoft's feet. Comments like, "Vista has lousy support for Hardware X" or "Vista borked my Hardware Y" are a pet peeve of mine since most of the time it's the hardware manufacturer who didn't release the drivers on time, or just did a shoddy job with them.

I was a bit confused as to what you meant by "I've gotten around the way vista hides files by using a flash drive." If it's a matter of not being able to see hidden files this can be fixed by going to Start->Control Panel->Folder Options, then clicking on the View tab and clicking the box for "Show Hidden & System Files". In XP, it was under Tools->Folder options from an Explorer window, which made it a lot easier to find, though part of me thinks that might be the reason they moved it. :P If it's something else, then I'm back to being confused because I can't think of any issues with hidden files that could be solved with a flash drive...

[Fyron]

Its still there in the Tools menu; just hit alt to make the menu bar appear (also works in IE).

[Black_Knyght]

I have had quite a bit of experience with both XP and Vista, both on personal and professional levels, and have to honestly say that in my opinion Vista just hasn't lived up to it's much lauded expectations.

Even several notable computer-industry websites and magazines have indicated that many of Vista's users who find it an improvement have a bit of a "shiny new thing" mentality, and often justify it's use over XP without any measurable or "proven" marketable evidence. Even several large corporations have opted to retro-install XP over Vista, because for all it's faults XP have had the benefit of time and effort to improve it as much as it has.

Vista may yet turn out to be the Golden Goose that Microsoft hoped it would be, but at the moment it just comes packaged with more headaches than benefits.

[Fyron]

The anti-Vista hype juggernaut is large indeed. If you don't think Vista has measurable and proven advantages over XP, you need to do some more reading. It actually has more advantages vs. XP than XP had vs. win2k when it came out, many of them of actual significance (dwm instead of a single frame buffer, decoupled driver architecture, uac/security measures, ie7 protected mode, etc.). It still has some issues, like a finicky explorer forgetting display settings, but most of the problems have been patched out by now.

[Ironmanbc]

ya i read that but this is FROM people that HAVE vista that they would like to go back to XP

[Captain Kwok]

I'm sure the same could have been said of those wanting to go back to Win98 from WinXP. :P

My only qualm with Vista so far is SE5 performance.

[capnq]

Originally Posted by Fyron

The anti-Vista hype juggernaut is large indeed.

Yeah, but the pro-Vista hype juggernaut is better financed.

[Vista] actually has more advantages vs. XP than XP had vs. win2k when it came out

Damning with faint praise...

[Ironmanbc]

Originally Posted by Captain Kwok

I'm sure the same could have been said of those wanting to go back to Win98 from WinXP. :P

My only qualm with Vista so far is SE5 performance.

I was for a long time a 98 user

then a friend showed me xp home (thats why i went right for xp PRO)

lol

[Santiago]

The Anti-Vista juggernaut is right in my opinion.

As Fyron says:
"It actually has more advantages vs. XP than XP had vs. win2k when it came out, many of them of actual significance (dwm instead of a single frame buffer, decoupled driver architecture, uac/security measures, ie7 protected mode, etc.)."

But I'm not going to run out and and buy it because of those items. I don't even know what most of them are. Vista has no big draw item to make it worthwhile. It's launch was horrible and it had a lot of problems but most have been fixed. It still has version overload and by some estimates I've seen, about 35% of new pc's are downgraded to XP either by the vendor or the user. That's 1 in 3 of every new pc. Vista has a bad reputation that cannot be fixed. It's a marketing failure.

Look at MS's OS history.....

3.1 good OS

95 bad OS

95 OS1 or w/e good OS

98 bad OS

98SE good OS

ME horrible OS

XP great OS

Vista....fill in the blank

Windows 7 SHOULD be good OS...but ya never know

As regards Windows 7 - Supposedly MS will reveal more about Windows 7 on or about 27 Oct. according to their own Windows Engineering blog. However it will not be available until 2010 (which is not that far off) but Microsoft is well and truly on-message: It still wants customers and partners to depart on the sinking ship Vista. Sure MS makes a lot of money off of Vista but they could have made much much more.

And if you bought a Vista PC or upgraded to Vista, Are you going to spend some more money to upgrade to Windows 7? I'm sure some will. Me? I'll wait til Windows 7 and see how that is. It's right around the corner and it'll be interesting to see how MS handles it.

If the last eight years of watching Steve Jobs smugly introduce “one more thing” have taught us anything, it’s that no matter how technically sound (or alternately, how fatally flawed) a product is, every major release desperately needs one or two supersexy features to incite lust in geeks everywhere. Every time Jobs rolls out a new product, he teases the audience with a feature or two that you simply cannot wait to use. These features not only leave customers clamoring for the new product but also give those pesky users sitting on the fence a rationale for upgrading.


Anyways Vista is a victim of its image and a terrible first impression as far I see it. But obviously people hold different view about Vista. To each one his own.