.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old January 29th, 2003, 06:29 AM

Merry Jolkar Merry Jolkar is offline
BANNED USER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 248
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Merry Jolkar is on a distinguished road
Default A.I. passwords?

Can one give A.I. races passwords? Can one do this in a PBW game? And, more to the immediate point can one add a password to an A.I. race in a PBW game so that players cannot (inadvertently, of course) SPY on the A.I.

God I feel dumb.
Merry
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old January 29th, 2003, 06:51 AM

Baron Grazic Baron Grazic is offline
Captain
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Australia
Posts: 809
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Baron Grazic is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A.I. passwords?

You can give the AI a password before the game starts by adding it to the Empire File.

If you are the admin of the game, then you need to run the turn manually on your machine and change the password, the same as you would if a user forgot their password.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old January 29th, 2003, 10:52 AM
Fyron's Avatar

Fyron Fyron is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Southern CA, USA
Posts: 18,394
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts
Fyron is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: A.I. passwords?

You can't spy on the AIs in a PBW game unless the empire was started under human control, and then the player left. But even then, you'd have to know the password in order to spy.

Well, the Host can spy, but hosts don't normally do that.
__________________
It's not whether you win or lose that counts: it's how much pain you inflict along the way.
--- SpaceEmpires.net --- RSS --- SEnet ModWorks --- SEIV Modding 101 Tutorial
--- Join us in the #SpaceEmpires IRC channel on the Freenode IRC network.
--- Due to restrictively low sig limits, you must visit this link to view the rest of my signature.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old January 29th, 2003, 01:08 PM
Rollo's Avatar

Rollo Rollo is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Kiel, Germany
Posts: 1,896
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rollo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A.I. passwords?

Quote:
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You can't spy on the AIs in a PBW game unless the empire was started under human control, and then the player left. But even then, you'd have to know the password in order to spy.

Well, the Host can spy, but hosts don't normally do that.
Sure you can. If the host added AI empires without a password, it is no problem opening their turns. Whether they started as human players or not, makes no difference (except of course that former human empires tend to have passwords and thus can't be opened).

Rollo
__________________
SE4
Devnull Mod Gold:
Version 1.80
Dungeon Odyssey:
Hack and Slash
Version 0.53e
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old January 29th, 2003, 07:06 PM

Merry Jolkar Merry Jolkar is offline
BANNED USER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 248
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Merry Jolkar is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A.I. passwords?

I think I must be confused about how the PBW site uses passwords. When signing up for a game on the site, it is crucial that the password you list be the same as the password you use when creating your race. How does this apply to A.I. races? I did create the game "by hand" (i.e., added the enemy A.I.'s myself), and did not put a password in for the races. If I now add a password, will this mean the PBW site cannot access the A.I.?? By the way, how would I add a password? If I upload a turn for the A.I. in which I change password, won't this undermine the A.I.'s activity that turn?

Thanks,
Merry

[ January 29, 2003, 17:16: Message edited by: Merry Jolkar ]
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old January 29th, 2003, 07:28 PM
geoschmo's Avatar

geoschmo geoschmo is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,450
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post
geoschmo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A.I. passwords?

Changing AI passwords is easy, and it will not affect PBW being able to access the turns at all. You have to process the turn offline for it to work. What you do is open the game as the host, but before you hit end turn hit game menu, options, reset passwords. Then select the AI players you want to change the passwords for. Be careful not to select the human players. It will tell you what the new passwords are, but you don't really need these since these are AI players. And hit end turn. Zip the resulting game files and upload it as the next turn. From that point on the AI players will be password protected.

Geoschmo
__________________
I used to be somebody but now I am somebody else
Who I'll be tomorrow is anybody's guess
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old January 29th, 2003, 07:38 PM
geoschmo's Avatar

geoschmo geoschmo is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,450
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post
geoschmo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A.I. passwords?

Originally posted by Merry Jolkar:
I think I must be confused about how the PBW site uses passwords. When signing up for a game on the site, it is crucial that the password you list be the same as the password you use when creating your race.


Actually it's not "crucial". But it is neccesary for a repalcement player to succesfully take over your empire if you leave the game. PBW does not need passwords for empires at all. The only password PBW needs to process the turn is the Game master password.

How does this apply to A.I. races?

It doesn't at all. Just as with the players, the AI passwords are not needed for PBW to process the turn.

Geoschmo
__________________
I used to be somebody but now I am somebody else
Who I'll be tomorrow is anybody's guess
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old January 29th, 2003, 07:46 PM

Merry Jolkar Merry Jolkar is offline
BANNED USER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 248
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Merry Jolkar is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A.I. passwords?

That is just what I needed to know. I'll change the A.I. passwords tonight. Thanks! Merry
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old January 30th, 2003, 12:17 AM

Andrés Andrés is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Rosario, Argentina
Posts: 1,047
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Andrés is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A.I. passwords?

This thread is about PBW so this has nothing to do, but the password of all AI races in a quick-start game is "master"
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old January 30th, 2003, 12:28 AM
Arkcon's Avatar

Arkcon Arkcon is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,518
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Arkcon is on a distinguished road
Default Re: A.I. passwords?

Quote:
Originally posted by Andr&eacutes Lescano:
This thread is about PBW so this has nothing to do, but the password of all AI races in a quick-start game is "master"
Thanks! I had been looking for that!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.