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Old September 2nd, 2003, 07:30 PM
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Well, I don't know about AI from messing up a rating...LOL. I played a game with Gryphin where some TDM AI were in the game and I got "distracted" a bunch! I mean, they were MEAN!

HOWEVER, I don't think your thread is a bad idea...it might be nice to have a thread where "challenges" or "invitations" for a Ratings one-on-one contest could be invited.

Having said that...(gulp)...I'd entertain a proposal for a one-on-one game with you (the reigning champion in the Ratings). I know you to be a brutal adversary. I remember you from my first KOTH game (where you spanked me and sent me home) and I think I will be better prepared for you in another game. After all, my best friend on the forum, Asmala, has taken me under his wing and given a lot of advice...which has made me a bit better.

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Old September 2nd, 2003, 08:00 PM
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Old September 2nd, 2003, 08:21 PM
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I'd love to play you again Slynky, but let me see if I can get any takers for this game with AI's first.

I do love the KOTH format, but I would like to try for a little larger game without missing the speed of only beeing 2 players.

I'll just let the challenge stay here a little longer. Any takers
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Old September 2nd, 2003, 08:24 PM
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Old September 2nd, 2003, 08:28 PM
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Seems like it would add a large element of luck, and several issues of AI abuse requiring house rules. A major factor would be what happens with the AI, so exploiting them would be a major element of the contest, but rules would need to be agreed on what AI abuses were allowed or not. Even then, the AI would probably be unpredictable, tending to tip the scales in one direction or the other.

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Seems like it would add a large element of luck, and several issues of AI abuse requiring house rules. A major factor would be what happens with the AI, so exploiting them would be a major element of the contest, but rules would need to be agreed on what AI abuses were allowed or not. Even then, the AI would probably be unpredictable, tending to tip the scales in one direction or the other.

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The idea was to set the game in team mode, making the AI's partner each other and instantly decleare war on both humans. That should not leave much posibilities for exploits.

Of course there would be an element of luck as to which direction the AI's would attack, but trying to "herd" the AI's against your opponent would make an interesting challenge. Or at least I belive it to be so.

Still no takers
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It sounds like an interesting and fun game type. I'm just not sure it goes that well if you're trying to rate players in competition, since even teamed, the AI's behavior is unpredictable and could alter the balance in many ways. Not that you necessarily care that much.

There are probably still AI exploits to consider, and whether any of them should be allowed or not.

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Here is an idea for some fast and furious 1 on 1 games with a twist

3 planet start on medium size Tescofied (well spaced starting positions) Maps. 2 human players, 2 of the best TDM AI’s with high bonus in team mode. Last surviving human wins.

1: Would this work ?
2: Any takers ?

Whack the Primitive one for extra bonus
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Old September 3rd, 2003, 02:06 AM
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Primitive, if no one else will I will accept your challenge. I was thinking about having a game such as this myself, allthough I am not totally sure about the AI getting high bonus. Last time I played AI on high bonus they whipped me worse then you did in our Last Koth game.
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