What is the point to life?

[deccan]

Originally posted by dogscoff:
People justifying their wealth with 'personal sacrifices' means nothing to me. See someone else's post earlier about how a sacrifice isn't a sacrifice if you plan to get something back from it. They very deliberately chose to make the 'sacrifices', so they shouldn't whinge about them.

I'm not sure what "justifying" wealth means in this context. What I mean is that many of the people who are rich worked hard to get rich, and therefore being rich, in this manner at least, shouldn't be regarded as something shameful. The fact that they deliberately set out to BE rich is a plus point in my opinion, not a negative point.

[Aristoteles]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Think about this for a second. We are born with the knowledge that we are going to die, so I ask you to consider why we are even given life in the first place. Doesn't it seem like a cruel thing to do, give something life with the knowledge that its life will ultimately mean nothing because it will die?

Why live if you know that the end result is just going to be death. Its like playing this great video game even though you KNOW your going to loose. That in the end everything meant nothing because you can't take it with you.

What good are memories of good times, and bad, if life after death is nothingness where concience thought does not exsist?

Think about this, do you remember the time before you were born? If not, then how do you expect to remember the you were live after you have died?

Our lives are meaningless in the end, and the journey there is made even more terrorfying because we know what will happen.

What is the purpose to life if death is the end result?

Aye, I have the same ideas, like you have.
I tell you, that a few hundred years more, and propably the human race will know the secret of eternal life.
Now it is sounds insane, but trust me, it will be possible, it only needs time to reach that knowledge.
Its all about genetics.

Also I bet that humans will be able to create any lifeform via modified DNA. Time travel? Contact with alien civilizations? etc. The sci-fi movies will become a reality. When? It is hard to tell, but it will happen.

[dogscoff]

How does a “universal religious drive” fit into the question?

Well, the deeply research religious tech until you get the “universal religious drive”, which gives similar ouput to quantum engines, but with far less research. That said, some ppl argue that quantum mechanics require just as much faith as religion. At the moment I've no idea how this impacts the tech tree, but I'll work some spreadsheets and let you know.

[President_Elect_Shang]

Originally posted by General Woundwort:

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Originally posted by President Elect Shang:
General Woundwort,
Something? Maybe it is our [human] something but not the aforementioned lions, or did one pose the same question already and I just missed the news flash? That was my only point. I did not refute or concede anything else. I said the question was too broad and answered the rephrased question as I posed it. It is human ego to think that all life must have a point because we want it to be so.
How does a “universal religious drive” fit into the question? Does everything have to contain religious connotations? Why? No matter what form you choose to pose the question why does this one have to? Because it is easier to quote than explain?

Ouch! Relax, I was just asking a question.

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Oh, my apologies, reading it now it is too harsh. Definitely not the spirit I intended to convey. Note to self, never write for BB’s past midnight. Did I at least somewhat get across my concept though? The difference between how we [humans] think things should be and what we make them into.

[President_Elect_Shang]

Originally posted by dogscoff:

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How does a “universal religious drive” fit into the question?

Well, the deeply research religious tech until you get the “universal religious drive”, which gives similar ouput to quantum engines, but with far less research. That said, some ppl argue that quantum mechanics require just as much faith as religion. At the moment I've no idea how this impacts the tech tree, but I'll work some spreadsheets and let you know.

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I believe that it allows for double movement of the ships normal speed once installed. I do recall for sure that it increases that ships maintenance and supply consumption by 25% and is prohibitive for small ships due to its size. I also think it makes the ships crew anal and they will refuse any command that orders them to harm others unless:
1. One million dollars is raised by next week or
2. 50 megatons of makeup is applied to the hull exterior before battle.

[General Woundwort]

Originally posted by President Elect Shang:
Did I at least somewhat get across my concept though? The difference between how we [humans] think things should be and what we make them into.

Yes you did - and that was actually what I was trying to emphasize. If this life is "all there is", and we evolved into/within it, whence came this idea of "something more"? And why should it have the power that it obviously does in people?

[Renegade 13]

Originally posted by deccan:

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Originally posted by Renegade 13:

Have you ever met a farmer or a rancher??

Until I saw this part, I thought you might be one of those rich people!!

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You obviously mean an AMERICAN farmer or rancher. No I haven't met an AMERICAN farmer or rancher but I have met African and Chinese (as in mainland China) farmers.

And sorry, but to me, this falls under "no sympathy for people who believes that society owes it to them to maintain the lifestyle and neighborhood they've always known."

Small-scale farming in rich countries is simply uneconomic unless supported by trade-distorting subsidies.

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I am relatively well off by Malaysian standards, but I wasn't born that way. Whenever I go back to my old neighborhood to visit, I find that the people who haven't grown out of it are those who are too unambitious, too stupid or too stubborn to make a serious go at changing their lives for the better.

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First, I was refering to Canadian farmers or ranchers, although there may be no real difference. And I concede your point that society does not owe it to people to maintain their lifestyle or neighborhood that they've always known. But as for your next point, I think that small-scale farming/ranching can be economical, even without subsidies. (By small-scale I mean in the 1000-2500 acre size range.) I also believe it is a sad day when all manufacturing, farming, and all other business is controlled by massive corporations, getting rid of the small-scale stuff.

Secondly, I agree with you. Those who have the will, ambition, and openness of mind to succeed usually will, although not always. Some disadvantages are simply too large to overcome.

[President_Elect_Shang]

Renegade 13: He is a Canadian
I am an American
Best friends but still separate countries. Just look on the map.

[General Woundwort]

Originally posted by President Elect Shang:
Best friends but still separate countries. Just look on the map.

Not for lack of effort on our part in the Revoltionary War and the War of 1812.

[Renegade]

Life goes on long after the victory of living has gone.