OT: Found An Interesting Program

[Atrocities]

I found this program that can tell you about your compter far more completely than any I have seen thus far. SiSoft Sandra (www.download.com)

Here is the running Temp on My PC. Is this to hot? And if so, what would be a good way to help cool it off? Drill holes in the case?

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 62.0°C / 143.6°F td

This is just the system summery, it has many, many more features than this.

SiSoftware Sandra

System
Host Name : MYCOMPUTER
User : Owner
Domain : ASYLEM

Processor
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Speed : 2.00GHz
Model Number : 2400 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR2896 (estimated)
Type : Standard
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC Synchronous Write-Back (16-way, 64 byte line size)

Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
MP Support : No
MP APIC : No
System BIOS : American Megatrends Inc. 3.06
Mainboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. A7N8X-LA
Total Memory : 767MB

Chipset 1
Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce2 AGP Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz data rate)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : Plug and Play Monitor
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra

Physical Storage Devices
Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive
Hard Disk : SAMSUNG SV8004H
Hard Disk : WDC FireWire/USB2.0 IEEE 1394 SBP2 Device
Hard Disk : eUSB Compact Flash USB Device
Hard Disk : eUSB SD-MS-SM USB Device
CD-ROM/DVD : ATAPI DVDROM 16X
CD-ROM/DVD : SONY CD-RW CRX215E5

Logical Storage Devices
1.44MB 3.5" (A : N/A
Hp_pavilion (C : 70.5GB (46.8GB, 66% Free) (NTFS)
Hp_recovery (D : 4.1GB (756MB, 18% Free) (FAT32)
CD-ROM/DVD (E : N/A
Sc4deluxe2 (F : 641MB (0MB, 0% Free) (CDFS)
Removable Drive (G : N/A
Removable Drive (H : N/A
Wdc combo (I : 74.5GB (30.4GB, 41% Free) (FAT32)

Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 1 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Mass Storage Device
FireWire/1394 Controller/Hub : OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Keyboard : HP PS2 Keyboard (2K - 3)
Mouse : Microsoft USB IntelliMouse Explorer
Human Interface : Microsoft USB IntelliMouse Explorer

MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : Realtek AC'97 Audio

Communication Device(s)
Device : Lucent Win Modem

Printers and Faxes
Model : HP DeskJet 820Cse
Model : Fax

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Home (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 1)

Network Services
Network Drivers Enabled : Yes
Adapter : NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Adapter

[ December 21, 2003, 18:58: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Fyron]

That is about twice as hot as my motherboard runs... but at any rate, it is not necessarily a bad thing, as long as it still runs smoothly. AMD CPUs tend to run a lot hotter than Intel CPUs. More case fans will definitely help. So would installing a liquid cooling system.

[ December 21, 2003, 19:08: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Atrocities]

I had considered adding more case fans, that is the cheep thing to do. But liquid cooling, now that would be interesting.

I think the temp issue is why HP products are not that reliable.

[Suicide Junkie]

You could also move up here to Canada

[Narrew]

I am running the same CPU but on a MSI MB, right now it is running 42c/105f. I will qualify that with this, I am cheap and have no heat on in my APT, I let the old lday below heat my place, so my ambient is helping. During the summer it gets up there. I went and bought a new Case, I decided to go with Antec, I paid around $100 or so for ir, but it has a dual speed power supply, plus has a 120cm fan at the spot where the cpu is, what I did was turn that fan around so it blew into the case right over the cpu fan and it helped alot.

If that case had not have helped, then it would have been liquid cooling next.

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
You could also move up here to Canada

LOL Good one. But it being an HP and all, the Canadian Mounties wouldn't let it into the Country.

I have thought about adding extra fans, but I have seen in the past that they really do not make that much of a differance. I am running it now with the side cover ajar and that has lowered the temp a bit but not by much.

I am considering putting a mini fan down there and blow air onto it. This might be bad because it will increase the dust collection factor.

I could swap cases and go with a new case, but if I did that, I would void the warrenty at the moment.

I just added a new video card, a GeForce FX 5700. so when I shut the PC down to add the card, and pulled the case off I was amazed at how warm the air was inside. This prompted me to find out how hot the system was and the rest is forum history.

(OBTW, avoid Deus Ex IW for the time being, the graphics engine they have is really, I do mean this, Really bad. Looks like a cheap port from an X box game. The Graphics just don't look right. I'd wait for a few more patches before buying the game. Not that you guys would ever buy a game like this.)

SimCity 4 runs on it like a dream now.

[Ed Kolis]

That program told me my dad's cheapass eMachines computer, with the advertised as 1GHz processor, was rated at only 650MHz but running at 1GHz... I wonder if it's even legal to overclock out of the box without telling the customer!

[Baron Munchausen]

A mainboard operating at 62 Celcius? Are you absolutely sure that's the board and not the CPU? I can see an Athlon 2400+ running at 62 C. You'd probably need an 'overclockers' cooling system to keep it much below 60, I'm sure. But the MB at 62 C is a shocker if that's true. I'd be afraid your CPU is running at 80 C or more and is in danger.

Cooling can be accomplished many ways. First of course is to make sure the case is not boxed in too tightly. There needs to be some space, especially at the back, to let air circulate. Some people resort to drilling holes or cutting huge gaps in the case, yes. Some people open the case (or don't put the cover on, if the case is designed in a single piece) and simply point a big box fan at it! Lots of SETI@HOME people do this with their dedicated SETI machines. The temperature of the room around the machine makes a big difference even with a normal 'closed' case, though. You don't say what sort of case it is, but I'd bet it's a normal 'mini' or 'mid-size' tower, and those aren't very well designed. For your next system consider investing a bit extra in a case especially designed to have good air-circulation and help keep your system cool.

[Narrew]

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
A mainboard operating at 62 Celcius? But the MB at 62 C is a shocker if that's true. I'd be afraid your CPU is running at 80 C or more and is in danger.

When I saw that, I figured that it was a typo, hopefuly it is, otherwise he will be getting a new CPU and MB soon.

[Gryphin]

One more note about fans:
Make sure you have as many blowing out as you do blowing in. Include the powersuplys fan in your count.