Favorite Star Trek episode

[narf poit chez BOOM]

personally, i think all tv shows should be distributed via internet. that way, we could pay for the shows we like and no commercials.

[Atrocities]

I think George Lucas made the same claim about Battlestar Galactica.

The point is, simularities do not mean plagerism occured. I can understand JMS's position, but he has no proof that it occured. Besides, even it if they did steal from him, and I yes it is possible, he never filed a complaint or lawsuit over it.

To stand back 10 years after the fact now and say they stoled from him, well whats the point really? To prove me wrong and shut me up? If there is no proof, there is no proof. It all becomes speculation and accusation, and that is something I simply could careless about.

If they stoled from him, then shame on them. I don't like the people who produced DS9 for the most part as they all think they are the greatest thing to ever walk the earth. So ya it is possible that they did steal from JMS, and if they did, I sincerely hope that someday he proves it and makes them all look like the arse holes they are.

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
personally, i think all tv shows should be distributed via internet. that way, we could pay for the shows we like and no commercials.

Narf they tied that twice before. Cable and then later Satellite TV. Pay for a subscription on the premis that there will be less or no commericals, but guess what, they lied.

Eventually they will offer such a service, but again it will have commericals. IF they say it won't, remember they hold doctorate degrees in lying to people.

I wonder what an employer would think if you applied for a job and your Doctrate was Lying?

[gregebowman]

I agree. Even though there are some fairly minor similarities (whoa, a space station, whopee!!), the storylines and backgrounds were so dissimilar that I could never see any plagiarism. But I must admit, there are some episodes on both shows I never saw.

Also, Atrocities, I agree that ST 2 was the best of the movies, but there's one thing about the movie that's been bugging me for 22 years now. Who were Khan's crew? They looked way too young to be his original co-fugitives; and they looked too old to be 13 or 14 year olds, as this movie happened about 15 years after the Space Seed episode. And Joachim wasn't the original actor either; they used a younger actor. Anybody got a clue?

[Cipher7071]

personally, i think all tv shows should be distributed via internet. that way, we could pay for the shows we like and no commercials.

narf, isn't that what they said when cable TV first came out?


Must have seen all of the original Star Trek episodes three times at least, but do you think I can remember the names?

The ones alredy mentioned that I like best are "The Trouble with Tribbles" and "Spock's Brain."

Not mentioned is the episode where they come upon a planet where there are no adults, and find out that it's because a disease kills everyone as soon as they reach puberty. The catch is that it also slows down the aging process.

Another one I like is "Skin of Evil," from the 'next generation' series.

[oleg]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
I agree. Even though there are some fairly minor similarities (whoa, a space station, whopee

Simililarities !? Do you know the history how DS9 come to life at the first place ?
Here is another JMS post on the subject:
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IslanderUK wrote: "I seem to recall reading in one of the B5 magazines that when JMS was
first trying to sell the idea of B5, he was aware that DS9 was also in
the pipeline, so to say that DS9 is a knock-off is not strictly true
although some of the later story lines are similar."

Negative. We began trying to sell the B5 series to everyone in
town, including Paramount, 5 years prior to getting a Go order. The B5
series was announced in early November of that year. There was NO set
ST series by that point. Over the following Christmas weekend, I got a
phone call from someone very closely involved with Trek, who said,
"They just decided what the new Trek show is going to be. It's about a
space station that's a center of commerce, with a travel gate nearby."

So your information is quite incorrect. Nor did it come from
the B5 magazine (there's only one).

"Still JMS must be quite pleased if it is a knock-off, as to copy ones
ideas is the greatest form of praise."

Let me steal your car and see if you feel the same way
afterward.

jms

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by gregebowman:
I agree. Even though there are some fairly minor similarities (whoa, a space station, whopee!!), the storylines and backgrounds were so dissimilar that I could never see any plagiarism. But I must admit, there are some episodes on both shows I never saw.

Also, Atrocities, I agree that ST 2 was the best of the movies, but there's one thing about the movie that's been bugging me for 22 years now. Who were Khan's crew? They looked way too young to be his original co-fugitives; and they looked too old to be 13 or 14 year olds, as this movie happened about 15 years after the Space Seed episode. And Joachim wasn't the original actor either; they used a younger actor. Anybody got a clue?

I honestly don't know the answer to this. It has been debated for many years, but I personally think that the crew we saw in ST II were primarly made up of crew members that we did not see in Space Seed.

Ever wonder why Kahn recognized Chekov even though he was not in the episode?

Walter K. explained this once at a convention that I attened for work. (News Pass)

He stated that he was working the night shift and was not feeling so good. On his way to the bridge he had to stop and use one of the Crew restrooms. Khan in the mean time could not get his toilet to work and you know after being frozen for 200 years, he had to go pretty damn bad. So he ran out of his quarters and went right to the same crew restroom that Chekov was using. Needless to say Chekov told him to wait and Kahn being Khan ripped the door open, grabbed poor Chekov lifting him into the air and said, "I will never foget your face!" Then threw him to the corridor deck and stepped into the restroom and closed the door.

If he said it went down this way, who are we to argue.

[ January 07, 2004, 14:08: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[gregebowman]

Originally posted by Atrocities:

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Originally posted by gregebowman:
I agree. Even though there are some fairly minor similarities (whoa, a space station, whopee!!), the storylines and backgrounds were so dissimilar that I could never see any plagiarism. But I must admit, there are some episodes on both shows I never saw.

Also, Atrocities, I agree that ST 2 was the best of the movies, but there's one thing about the movie that's been bugging me for 22 years now. Who were Khan's crew? They looked way too young to be his original co-fugitives; and they looked too old to be 13 or 14 year olds, as this movie happened about 15 years after the Space Seed episode. And Joachim wasn't the original actor either; they used a younger actor. Anybody got a clue?

I honestly don't know the answer to this. It has been debated for many years, but I personally think that the crew we saw in ST II were primarly made up of crew members that we did not see in Space Seed.

Ever wonder why Kahn recognized Chekov even though he was not in the episode?

Walter K. explained this once at a convention that I attened for work. (News Pass)

He stated that he was working the night shift and was not feeling so good. On his way to the bridge he had to stop and use one of the Crew restrooms. Khan in the mean time could not get his toilet to work and you know after being frozen for 200 years, he had to go pretty damn bad. So he ran out of his quarters and went right to the same crew restroom that Chekov was using. Needless to say Chekov told him to wait and Kahn being Khan ripped the door open, grabbed poor Chekov lifting him into the air and said, "I will never foget your face!" Then threw him to the corridor deck and stepped into the restroom and closed the door.

If he said it went down this way, who are we to argue.

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IIRC, I heard the similar story from George Takei at the only Star Trek convention I've ever attended in Phoenix. It is a funny story, even if it may not be true.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by oleg:

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Originally posted by gregebowman:
I agree. Even though there are some fairly minor similarities (whoa, a space station, whopee

Simililarities !? Do you know the history how DS9 come to life at the first place ?
Here is another JMS post on the subject:

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Gotta love speculation based directly on fact...

[Electrum]

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As far as the ST Franchise, I've enjoyed it all. So they mess up the continuity. So what! Just enjoy the ride!