Characteristics (BUG)

Atrocities · #1 January 14th, 2004, 02:08 AM

I have noticed that at times my bonuses in characteristics seem to to be working in reverse. Case in point, in a game that I am now playing against another RL person I have maitenance set to impressive, yet I am struggling with minerals each turn. I set up a game to run with Maitenance set to 100% and not above, and I have many more minerals per turn with more ships and less mineral producing worlds.

Also the same can be said about Intel / research and many other settings in the Characteristics. I think that they are working in reverse.

It sure as hell seems like they are. I am saving my game files to verify this later.

Fyron · #2 January 14th, 2004, 02:19 AM

Please make savegame files where you can verify this available ASAP. I do not think any of them are working in reverse myself, so please prove me wrong.

Atrocities · #3 January 14th, 2004, 03:14 AM

They sure feel as if they are working against me that is for damn sure.

It like having a ball an chain tied to your feet, you just can't get ahead even with the bonuses, its like they are working in reverse.

Fyron · #4 January 14th, 2004, 03:29 AM

But they are not. Just made a game with a race that has 110 Maint Apt and 130 Minerals Apt.

HW: 5 mineral miners, on 98% value planet
6664 minerals production

5*800 = 4000
4000*.98 = 3920
30% bonus from pop, 10% from happiness
So, 130+30+10 = 170
70% bonus
3920*1.7=6664
The math leads to the same value generated in-game.

Next I built an escort with 3 supply pods and 6 ion engines I. Minerals cost is 3450.

Base maint would be 3450*.25 = 863
The game has me pay 517 for it.
110 Maint Apt.
So, that makes 15% base maint rate.
3450*.15 = 517.5

Conclusion: seems to be working fine to me.

Atrocities · #5 January 14th, 2004, 03:41 AM

I am telling you Fyron, it feels as if my feet are in glue.... I can't get ahead to save my empire.

Fyron · #6 January 14th, 2004, 03:42 AM

Maybe it would comfort you to know that most of the best players run mineral deficits for a (relatively) long time... those initial resources help a lot.

Atrocities · #7 January 14th, 2004, 03:47 AM

and those numbers just made my brain hurt!

Fyron · #8 January 14th, 2004, 04:03 AM

Well that would explain why you seem to think your bonuses are acting in reverse, and this is not the first time you have claimed such things.

Baron Munchausen · #9 January 14th, 2004, 04:16 AM

Maybe you are misunderstanding how the maintenance ability works and using it in reverse? Try the other way once. Give yourself a 'maintenance penalty' and see how that looks.

Phoenix-D · #10 January 14th, 2004, 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Maybe you are misunderstanding how the maintenance ability works and using it in reverse? Try the other way once. Give yourself a 'maintenance penalty' and see how that looks.

He said he had it set to impressive, so I doubt it. Most likely its just a game to game difference in the amount of planets with good mineral values.