OT - How would sc-fi ships do in battle against each other? - Page 3

QuarianRex · #21 February 18th, 2004, 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by gregebowman:
First of all, the Enterprise could outrun anything in the Star Wars universe. A star destroyer and the Millenium Falcon might get up to light speed, but we all know that any ship from the Star Trek universe could go to warp 9.99, which is 9.99 the speed of light cubed.

Where on earth did you get this idea? SW ships are much, much faster than trek ships. Voyager found itself on the other side of the galaxy and it was a 75 year trip home. Han Solo went from Tatooine to alderan in @three weeks. The republic (and then the empire) spaned an entire galaxy and ships routinely travelled its span without the need for generation ships. Propulsion tech in Star Wars is therefore vastly superior to that of trek. Don't get confused by the non-technical references to "lightspeed" and "lasers". These are just colloquialisms of a 70's space opera. Judge the tech by what it does, not by what it it's called.

Fyron · #22 February 18th, 2004, 09:28 AM

And, of course, the Rebel Fleet gathered together well outside the galaxy, and we could see the spiral arms and all quite nicely. I think that was SW VI... or was it V?

Imperial · #23 February 18th, 2004, 09:33 AM

the Yamato/Argo is from the Japanese anime cartoon Known in the U.S. as Starblazers. Id like to see a mock up of what a Zentradi(SP?) Flagship (from Robotech/Macross) can do too--those ships were nasty in the cartoon.

narf poit chez BOOM · #24 February 18th, 2004, 09:37 AM

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Where on earth did you get this idea? SW ships are much, much faster than trek ships. Voyager found itself on the other side of the galaxy and it was a 75 year trip home. Han Solo went from Tatooine to alderan in @three weeks. The republic (and then the empire) spaned an entire galaxy and ships routinely travelled its span without the need for generation ships. Propulsion tech in Star Wars is therefore vastly superior to that of trek. Don't get confused by the non-technical references to "lightspeed" and "lasers". These are just colloquialisms of a 70's space opera. Judge the tech by what it does, not by what it it's called.

i think he means the slower than light drive. in which case, the ST ships are faster.

QuarianRex · #25 February 18th, 2004, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
i think he means the slower than light drive. in which case, the ST ships are faster.

He was talking about Warp drives, not impulse. As far as slower than light drives go I've seen nothing to indicate that impulse is faster. Have you seen the dogfights (of lack thereof) in trek. Even looking at shuttles/runabouts vs. SW fighters (craft that are similar enough to be compared) the trek craft are rediculously ponderous. Again, the speed edge has to go to SW.

narf poit chez BOOM · #26 February 18th, 2004, 10:19 AM

well, the tech manuals, as far as i know, say different. this is only what i've heard. and SW had a higher effects budget porportionally, i think.

gregebowman · #27 February 18th, 2004, 03:55 PM

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Originally posted by QuarianRex:

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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
i think he means the slower than light drive. in which case, the ST ships are faster.

He was talking about Warp drives, not impulse. As far as slower than light drives go I've seen nothing to indicate that impulse is faster. Have you seen the dogfights (of lack thereof) in trek. Even looking at shuttles/runabouts vs. SW fighters (craft that are similar enough to be compared) the trek craft are rediculously ponderous. Again, the speed edge has to go to SW.

I'm talking about speed. Sure, SW ships can go into hyperdrive, which has been over looked in the ST universe. Now, nothing I've read or seen says anything about hypderdrive being faster than a Warp 9 vessel. Maybe a SW ship may reach their destination before a ST ship, but since we are talking about science FICTION!, that might not be true, depending on the distance involved. Basically what I was trying to say is that if it came to a ST ship wanting to get the heck out of Dodge while it's getting a beating from a SW ship, then it can go like a bat out of hell. Like I said above, if it came to a race, I just don't know who would win.

Ruatha · #28 February 18th, 2004, 04:00 PM

I read somewhere that G Lucas said that Enterprise could take out the entire empire fleet single handed, it was an interview a few years back.
I'm not saying it's so, only what I read, he had some arguments for it aswell.
Will try to look up a reference.

[ February 18, 2004, 14:03: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

geoschmo · #29 February 18th, 2004, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by gregebowman:
Now, nothing I've read or seen says anything about hypderdrive being faster than a Warp 9 vessel.

The republic at it's height, and the empire after it spanned the galaxy. The federation is a little collection of planets in a small fraction of the Alpha quadrant. Assuming the SW galaxy is roughly the same size as the Milky Way, which we don't really know of course, hyperdrive would have to be orders of magnitude faster then warp drive. Travel between Corsucant and the remotest parts of the galaxy takes weeks. While Voyager was looking at several decades to make it home running flat out at top warp speed.

[ February 18, 2004, 14:09: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

dogscoff · #30 February 18th, 2004, 04:46 PM

Personally I'd be putting my money on a Culture GSV or GCU. As well as being veryvery big, insanely fast/ powerful/ well armed and unimaginably clever, they have a wicked sense of humour.

An interesting quote I came across:
"Nahhh, If the Culture is the USA, the Homomdan Empire is the USSR. The Galactic Empire is the mugger on the corner of Fifth and Main and the UFP is the bum he's curb stomping." form http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/ar...dex.php/t-8191