Space Empires 101 - Galactic Council

[AMF]

We would suggest the creation of a Council force composed of Warp-opener ships that can assist your empire in this process. We've got at least one we could committ to such an endeavour.

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
Our empire is in shambles and it will take years to rebuild to the glory we once had. But with the help of our alliance members it can be done. Getting some order to our systems is first task at hand, having all of our colonies spread out like butter on bread is hurting our people. But we shall complete a ship in the months to come that will enable us to restructure our space and get things in order.

Regent Ragnarok
Of the Rorg Empire

[Wardad]

Please don't forget Eysk. He was there fighting and helping.

[Aiken]

Eysk Imperial Guard is ready to openly collaborate with other races of Galactic Council and will be glad to join the Council. Distribution of votes according to the empire population amount is acceptable. However, 5 members, able to use right of the veto is too much in our opinion. 3 elective members (elected once a year or so) is better.

So long as the status of Woostroid Woqua is dabated, I'm deputed to claim our rights to the planets: Woostroid II, III and XIII. It's our trophies captured during the military operation in this system. At the same time we are ready to discuss the sale or exchange of this planets to any interested empire.

We have a special proposal for RCC: we could convert any number of asteroids inside your territory to planets in exchange for colonies in Mannurepha system. Approx. exchange rate: 2 converted planet to 1 existing colony. Please contact us if you're interested.

If RCC will refuse and if any other empire will find such services useful, our fast and seflsustained stellar manipulators could create a planet, open or close warp points for you in any sector of the known galaxy for a reasonable price. Just let us know.[Shameless ad ]

Shekk. The Admiral of EIG.

Edit: just read the comments and I agree that Cyber Collective, Royal Corporate Commonwealth, and Citizen Federation are the best pretender to call themselves "The Council Core" (with veto right) even without elections and such.

[ June 23, 2004, 22:27: Message edited by: aiken ]

[TerranC]

Originally posted by Wardad:
I will restrict my colonization to former Die-O and Electrum systems, including neighboring asteroid systems.

I would like to lodge to all who read here a formal request to refrain from colonizing planets in systems formerly controlled by Electrum, that are now in Wendigo control; as members of the alliance in which the wendigo are part of undoubtly know, although we have inherited vast planets and fleets with unimaginable power and riches, our planets are in chaos and in continous rioting, which has crippled our economy; we expect that we will need to colonize more planets within our systems once our current social problems subside, but we will not be able to do so, should some of our more aggresive allies decide to claim uninhabited planets in aforementioned systems, which to our estimation, will cause only unnecessary aggravation on both parties and, I am afraid to say, forced removal of, from this moment on we shall refer as, squatter colonies.

Although us Wendigo had not a big part in the removal of Electrum and the Deis, we believe we should rightfully receive what is now rightfully ours.

We have already recieved communication from the Cyber Collective demanding that we begin in earnest demilitarization and hand over one of our fleets, comprised of 60 to 70 warships for compensation. We have already responded that we will not stand for such attempts at subjugation from our own allies, and we say here that we will not stand for any further attempts from any other empire.

Although that we have just mentioned will now be the official policy of the Wendigo, we understand that many of our allies have had planets taken from them, ships and fleets destroyed by Electrum, and had put into effect immeasurable efforts to bring him down, and that they want to be recompensated for it. As of this moment, those nations that demand recompensation shall have their voices heard, and shall have what they demand, as long as they demand reasonably.

And pertaining to this council matter, the Wendigo, following our policy of neutrality and/or humanitarian participation, hereby declare that we will have no part with the Galactic Council, and declare that decisions of the Galactic Council shall have no effect in Wendigo space. However, we recognize the council's rights to the system of Woostroid Woqua, and shall follow the will of the council, according to our own discretion.

Shir-Khan Mustafa
Wendigo Pride

OoC: I'll be moving at the end of the month, so if you want your recompensation, ask now.

[Aiken]

As Wendigo Pride would like to keep neutral status I suggest them to determine their borders more precisely. List of the systems would be sufficient. This will make easier to discuss the problem of any contested systems (if they will appear).

EIG.

[TerranC]

Originally posted by aiken:
As Wendigo Pride would like to keep neutral status I suggest them to determine their borders more precisely. List of the systems would be sufficient. This will make easier to discuss the problem of any contested systems (if they will appear).

EIG.

As you wish, here is a list of systems in which we as of 2410.7 have colonies in, but by no means we have complete control over:

Alemania
Anna
Bisque
Blaga
Charis
Culroon
Da'Atpu
Dysona
Faire
Fwandrei
Gauguin
Hatysa
Indubrama
Luce
Maghemite
Nakhs
New Cylimba
Ord Sabaok
Oxajo
Palomaa
Patterson
Pi'Peoreq
Raushenbakh
Sasha
Strand
Vladimirov
Yatskiv
Yerevan
Zamenhof
Zombie

We would like our borders defined as containing systems mentioned above, and would like to annex:

Iapetus
Uglurz
Grigery
Drillin
Sasha
Raushenbakh

although after discussing with any other nations that are interested in obtaining control over those 6 systems.

And furthermore, although we have spoken of squatter colonies, I, Shir-Khan Mustafa, wish to declare that colonies colonized after 2410.9 inside our declared space will be considered as such, and that colonies that were already colonized shall be known to the pride as rightful colonies of their sovereign nations, and guarantee that their sovereignity shall not be infringed by us.

[ June 23, 2004, 23:53: Message edited by: TerranC ]

[Thermodyne]

Thermolia agrees in principle with the proposal that has been put forth. And we would like to take this opportunity to claim the 13th and 16th planets in the Wootoid Woquia system. This system is of strategic importance and now a gateway into Thermolian space.

We would like to also add an amendment to the proposal as regards to voting rights. Thermolia proposes the addition of a security council made up of three permanent members, each of whom would have a veto. 2 additional members would be voted in each fifty cycles and serving no more than two consecutive terms. These voted in members would also have a veto. The duty of the Security Council would be to maintain the security of known space. And as a secondary function, it would be the duty of this council to develop a plan for controlling the levels of armament that exist across the galaxy.

All votes would be 1 empire 1 vote, with all maters of security being decided by the Security Council.

[Wardad]

Systems:
Iapetus
Uglurz
Grigery
Drillin
Sasha

...were devastated by my fleets,and can be claimed as spoils of war,if I am fast enough.

Dysona...
was devastated by my fleets,
has but one tiny planet left colonized.

Raushenbakh...
a good part was owned by Dei-Os,
thermolian and Eysk helped to devastate that system.

What Say you all?

[AMF]

If the Wendigo desire to opt out of the Galactic Council, the RCC will not stand in their way. It is their right. However, we beleive that the galactic council, serving as it should to resolve conflicts of interest peacefully, beleives it is in the interest of all powers and the quadrant to pursue these issues through the matter of the Council.

Furthermore, we do not disagree that allowing a concentration of power in the hands of the Security Council may be a unwise move. Although we make up a portion of the proposed Security Council, we hope (and propose) that the Security Council be, instead, the enforcement arm of the Galactic Council, and that the Galactic Council be ruled by majority decision, with voting based on population.

With that in mind, we reiterate that although we support the Wendigo desire to opt out of the Galactic Council, we beleive that their interests would be better served by having a voice in the workings of the COuncil and, furthermore, that we (the RCC) pledge to endeavour to bring about a solution to this issue that is acceptable to all involved.

As to the issue of colonies, aside from the territorial changes of our holdings that we have already mentioned (ie: ceding of two systems to Thermolia and relenquishment of all rights over Woostoid Woqua) we consider all current holdings to be soveriegn RCC territory. As far as our current maps indicate, there are no empty planets or asteroids in current RCC holdings. And, if there are, the colonizers that we had sent to Woostoid will be going to them soon, anyways. Our policy on this may change, once we get a better handle on what the former Dei-O holdings comprise, but that is our current stance.

Finally, we beleive that the Council should establish a planet, preferably in a relatively central location, upon which each member of the council would have its embassies and a diplomatic housing station. WE would be interested in hearing nominations for suitable planets, and we propose that each member of the council send a mobile shipyard to said planet (when the Council agrees where it is) to build a diplomatic station to house their delegates.

So, we repeat, we beleive the Galactic COuncil is the best venue for the Wendigo to take up their concerns, rather than dismiss it in it's nascent stage or risk marginalization.

RCC

OOC: Isn't politics cool? Frankly, I personally think its fascinating to see the interplay here...and I am very eager to see what happens in this game. There are plenty of issues that could be dealt with in a "galactic council" manner...and plenty of questions...could make for a very different sort of game, almost like play by committee...but I'll shut up now so I don't let my OOC biases influence all this...and, hey, I'm gone for the next five days, so perhaps by the time I get back the whole Galactic COuncil proposal will have been torpedoed by realpolitik...thanks, Alarik

[Joachim]

"We interupt this broadcast of Inter-Galactic Big Brother and cut to an unfolding news story":

The 3d hologram screen becomes shaky and slightly unclear...

A Dei Flag Admiral in full regalia appears in screen.

"I am Fleet Admiral Estekls of the Dei Liberation Organisation. The Dei Governement may have collapsed as a result of the Religious Zealots bent on the subjugation and destruction of the free peoples of this Quadrant, but we will not stand for their barabrism and will fight with all our means to remove the yoke of opression from all citizens of the Quadrant. We may be few in number now, but we call on all non-zealot races to rise up and destroy the threat to the galaxy that is the Cyber and Citizen evil empires.
We also have in our possesion a Lust class battleship - and we are ready to destroy a sun if thats what it takes.

Rise slaves, break the tyranny of the Religious ones - do not fall for the control and oppression that a galactic council will.. BZZZZZ Click.

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