3d battle scenes are looking horrible! :(

[Mortifer]

Hey guys Im excited about Dom II.
2 things what I dont like so far.

1. No diplomacy.
2. These 3d battle scenes are horrible, especially those units . This graphics was ok like 10 years ago....
You guys should use a top-down view maybe? Example: The War Engine...
I know that this game isnt about good gfx, but one thing is for sure: a horrible 3d battle gfx wont make this game any better.......in fact it may scare away potential customers...

[ September 21, 2003, 14:51: Message edited by: Mortifer ]

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by Mortifer:
Hey guys Im excited about Dom II.
2 things what I dont like so far.

1. No diplomacy.
2. These 3d battle scenes are horrible. This graphics was ok like 10 years ago....
You guys should use a top-down view maybe? Example: The War Engine...
I know that this game isnt about good gfx, but one thing is for sure: a horrible 3d battle gfx wont make this game any better.......in fact it may scare away potential customers...

Whatever you think of the battles it is to late to change the graphics now. I myself think they are an improvement over the battles in dom1 at least.

[Hurmio]

What? I've been thinking that the new 3d battle looks great! Compared to the original, graphics are awesome. And as you said yourself, this game isn't about visual effects...

Matti

[Mortifer]

Hm I am not sure...at least the units there arent heavily pixelated..The terrain gfx and the overland map gfx is 'ok' in Dom II...the main problem are those units on the screenshots, those are damn horrible.
The closest units are like big pixel hills.

[ September 21, 2003, 14:19: Message edited by: Mortifer ]

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by Mortifer:
Hm I am not sure...at least the units there arent heavily pixelated..The terrain gfx and the overland map gfx is 'ok' in Dom II...the main problem are those units on the screenshots, those are damn horrible.
The closest units are like big pixel hills.

The units are small sprites, therfore they look pixelated when viewed close up, most of the time there is no reason to zoom in to that degree, but you can if you wish. Most of the beta testers that previously played dom 1 seem to think that the quasi 3D of dom 2 is an improvement over its predecessor. And illwinter doesnt have the resources to produce up to date 3D graphics.

[Nerfix]

Hmmmmm...
Before i say anything stupid, did you use 3d-accelerator better than some Voodoo card when you took the pictures?

My catch is, better hardware may reduce the pixelation. Or not.

[ September 21, 2003, 14:50: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

[Mortifer]

Ah those are zoomed in images? Well than maybe it wont be that bad afterall.

Johan may I have a question? It was necessary to change to 3d in the battle screen?
There are strategy games with awesome 2d/isometric gfx on the market!
Even the War Engine's top-down view would be awesome with a 16bit color and min. 1024x768 resolution!

[Nerfix]

Dominions II, like Dominions I, is much, much more than it's graphics. If i realy like a game, i don't mind about the graphics: i care about the content.

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by Mortifer:
Ah those are zoomed in images? Well than maybe it wont be that bad afterall.

Johan may I have a question? It was necessary to change to 3d in the battle screen?
There are strategy games with awesome 2d/isometric gfx on the market!
Even the War Engine's top-down view would be awesome with a 16bit color and min. 1024x768 resolution!

No it wasn't necessery, but we thought it looked better than the previous battlefield, and JK had been working on a 3D engine for other reasons. Also the particle effects in the dom2 battles are significant improvement over the old spell effects from dom 1.

[Daynarr]

Spell effects REALLY look great guys.
Terrain is also fully 3D and the only thing that is pixilated would be units, but considering how many of them are there its not wonder why devs can't make 3D graphics for them. I for one prefer to have more units then few 3D ones.