anyone from Shrapnel...? - Page 2

Tim Brooks · #11 October 21st, 2003, 01:05 AM

Hi All:

We won't know for sure until all pieces are in. My understanding is that this will happen this week. At that time, we will have firm timeframes, although that doesn't rule out printing / duplicating / shipping delays. But, we will announce GOLD with a shipping date we fell comfortable with as soon as all the pieces are in our shop.

Hope that helps.

DominionsFan · #12 October 21st, 2003, 01:50 AM

Ok but the demo will be released today?

Mortifer · #13 October 21st, 2003, 10:03 AM

lol @ DominionsFAN.
You are always whining about the demo.

Just wait and you will have it!

((PS. Where is that bLasted demo!

))

MythicalMino · #14 October 21st, 2003, 07:45 PM

my question is still this:

Are things actually on schedule?

The manual is not been sent to printing yet (at least that is what it sounds like, if the manual is still being edited)...

They are still testing the demo (or, are they also testing the release Version too...)

In the newsGroups, the Version is reported as being 2.02 (i believe), and that it is assumed that this will be the same Version as released and demo Version....so, that would lead me to believe that the game itself hasn't gone gold yet (??)

Don't get me wrong, if there is more time needed for the game to get more perfected...fine....just please don't wait until the 30th to tell us....

ok, enough complaining now....i just hate waiting for a pre-order, then find out 2 days after the shipping date that the game has been delayed another month

EDIT: Just wanted to make sure that you guys at shrapnel are appreciated by me, as far as publishers go....WAY too often a game is pushed out the door before it is ready, and then the publishers get their initial payload of money from it, then drop it like a bad habit (MOO3 anyone?)....so, if the game still needs some refining, by all means, refine....all I am asking is let us know what is going on....many have waited years for this one...

[ October 21, 2003, 18:48: Message edited by: cpbeller ]

Psitticine · #15 October 21st, 2003, 08:53 PM

The game's code went gold on the 10th and the testing of the release candidate was completed at that point. The demo was then compiled based on that gold-code and is what is being tested now; so far, there haven't been any bugs or other problems reported. We've come up with a few things for future patches (such as the change in how Fire and Flee affects exiting troops) but that's been it since the Last Version, the one that went gold.

The manual's final readthrough will be finished this afternoon and it will be submitted to Shrapnel later today (or possibly tomorrow morning because of the time difference between the US and Sweden), and the spells and item listings have been finished for awhile. There may be some pre-print formatting left to do on the files, but I'm not sure on that score.

With all that in place, I don't think there will be any delays unless they happen at the printer or there is something I don't know about. I'm not privy to any scheduling stuff, but there hasn't been any talk of delay anywhere my Editing Parrot beak has led me.

(Edited for grammar an' stuff)

[ October 21, 2003, 20:04: Message edited by: Psitticine ]

MythicalMino · #16 October 21st, 2003, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Psitticine:
The game's code went gold on the 10th and the demo was then compiled based on that gold-code. The manual edit is finished as of today, unless there's some need for pre-print formatting I don't know about.

Thank you....that is the info i was looking for....all of it has come together, and that makes sense with what you said....thanks....i won't bother you anymore about release dates then....

Thanks again

st.patrik · #17 October 21st, 2003, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Psitticine:
The game's code went gold on the 10th and the demo was then compiled based on that gold-code. The manual edit is finished as of today, unless there's some need for pre-print formatting I don't know about.

With all that in place, I don't think there will be any delays unless they happen at the printer or there is something I don't know about. I'm not privy to any scheduling stuff, but there hasn't been any talk of delay anywhere my Editing Parrot beak has led me.

Thanks for the reply Psitticine [cpbeller articulated the question, but I had the same question]. It is very hard to interpret the various comments made about 'pulling things together' and such - so thanks for some details.

2 questions for those 'in the know':

1. (not so important): why wasn't it announced on Shrapnel's site when the game went gold? several other games have had this announced - not having it announced was something of a cause for concern for some.

2. (a little more important): when can we expect the demo? is there a reason why it takes more than 10 days from the time the code went gold? are you sitting on the demo for some reason?

N.B. I ask these questions with respect, trying not to sound accusatory at all - just looking for info. Forgive me if I sound impatient - I am eager to try the game out. I echo cpbeller's statement that if the game or demo thereof is delayed for some worthy reason that's just fine with me - better a later product that is high quality than a sooner one that is low quality. I just would like to know what's happening.

[ October 21, 2003, 20:08: Message edited by: st.patrik ]

Mortifer · #18 October 21st, 2003, 09:16 PM

Ok guys I think we should stop whining about the demo.
We will have it very soon I am pretty sure, so asking for it all day won't help the devs in anything.

MythicalMino · #19 October 21st, 2003, 09:17 PM

ok, whatever

Actually, no....

we are not "whining"....I have pre-ordered the game, and I am wondering whether or not the game is still on schedule for it's projected release date....

and, what is any different asking about the release date and the demo's release date, than asking about modding tools, or anything else that has been brought up on these Boards?

As I said, I asked some simple questions, as did St. Patrick....they were questions, not whining

[ October 21, 2003, 20:21: Message edited by: cpbeller ]

Psitticine · #20 October 21st, 2003, 09:20 PM

I'm afraid I don't have any answers for either question. The only thing I can think of is that maybe an electronic Version of the manual is intended for the demo, and so they've been waiting for that. That's just a guess though.

As for why there wasn't an announcement of the code itself going gold, I don't have even a vague guess like the one above. It's a mystery to me too!

Well, here's a late thought: maybe that has something to do with the manual too. Possibly, they want to wait to announce Gold Status until they can send complete packages to reviewers and so maximize the excitment generated by the announcement? Just a wild guess though . . . I'm a Math & Art Parrot, not a Marketing Bird.