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April 23rd, 2001, 03:33 AM
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Re: Strategic Help required!
Close the Warp points.... it seems to be your only hope.
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April 23rd, 2001, 04:32 AM
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Re: Strategic Help required!
Sorry, I can't use wormhole manip. Personal AI friendly policy. There's gotta be another solution.
Which of the things I mentioned below do you think will work best?
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April 23rd, 2001, 04:46 AM
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Re: Strategic Help required!
Try mining around, not in, the WP and hope they hit them. Also pop through the WP and mine their side, if possible. Layer mines all over the place and make their fleet take damage just moving through your system. They might not have enough minesweepers to keep a clear path. Also, attack their minesweepers if you get a chance.
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April 23rd, 2001, 06:37 AM
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Re: Strategic Help required!
Interesting situation, should be quite a challenge. I forsee many hours in front of a monitor scheming the downfall of the AIs, when you should be sleeping
You say that you have max PDC tech... I would say do this:
Get atmosphere converters and convert your planets, and use extra space for research facilities unless it's a real good value (for me, over 130%) in something.
Make a strike fleet consisting of your DUC/Tachyon LCs and a new design with all PDCs. Try to design it so it can easily be retrofitted to the DUC/Tachyon LC, and vice versa, a very fast way to get Legendary Fleets/Ships.
Take on the Jreanar, see if you can't capture a few of those dreadnaughts with your boarding escorts (check in sim first). If you can get just a few, it would be a real boost to your research, and would give you just that much more room to maneuver.
Keep on mining the warps leading to the Phong, step it up if you can.
Pray.
For the question of countering Crystalline weapons, only effective method I know is lots and lots of shields. Those aren't exactly the most damaging weapons, they are only dangerous when the shields are gone.
And about the AI using minesweepers and their speed in deployment... Well, I've never really been on that side of the minefield If the AI holds true to the form I've seen in it before, you'll only see lone minesweepers come through, not a group. How fast they will come is what I don't know, which is why I say step up mine production if you can.
I'll take a look at the savegame once I get the data files, see if I can't think of anything else.
And how's the Intel of all sides?
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April 23rd, 2001, 10:03 AM
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Re: Strategic Help required!
Looks kinda simple to me.
Phong are real danger, but Jraenar with missiles are weak. Few PD cruisers can bring you the victory.
Research Meson BLasters. Although not as powerful as APB, they provide fine fire, while cheap in both research and construction.
I will download the zip, and try to counter the ships with your technology. If i can, i will post the designs here.
And remember, LCs are good in swarms. DNs are slow. Use this against them
Try fighters. They are powerful indeed.
Research cloaking/stealth armor and sneak to the other side of mined warp-points. If you see a minesweeper coming, try to intercept.
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April 23rd, 2001, 10:04 AM
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Re: Strategic Help required!
the link for ZIP is broken
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April 23rd, 2001, 11:41 AM
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Re: Strategic Help required!
Ok, if you're not going to use stellar manip... then add sats/bases to the mined WP's, hopefully they'll take out the minesweepers.
Or for a wild tactic, if you have researched intelligene so that you can do crew insureection, scrap all research facilites and build intel... start doing crew insurrection (analyze some of their ships to "continue researching"), and cause some massive havoc... blockade as many systems as possible so they run out of resouces and have to scrap their navy (do Steal resources too... infact once you might be able to replace some mines/farms/extractors with intel if you can steal enough resources!).
[This message has been edited by Trachmyr (edited 23 April 2001).]
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April 23rd, 2001, 02:00 PM
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Re: Strategic Help required!
If you can manage to get a lone ship into enemy space, send a frigate / escort and hide in a storm sector. Drop a LR-scanner satellite if you don't want to leave a whole ship in there (or if the AI sees you go in and comes in after you.)
Once you have a watchful eye on the enemy use the "ship bomb" intel project to target his minesweepers. He might have counter intel running but keep plugging away - up your intel production and run as many identical projects as you can complete in one turn. You might yet stand a chance=-)
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April 23rd, 2001, 02:32 PM
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Re: Strategic Help required!
If you have ftrs, build and put on worm holes
to supplement your mines. Also if you have the tech, build Ship with ship yard tech, build 3-4 small BS on worm hole with the ftrs and mines. I found this to be effective
but if he has lots of mine sweeping, you need the ftrs and BS's, the mines won't do you any good. You might even put a small defensive fleet at the same worm hole. Use ftrs in Groups with each different type. Example, 15 with beam weapon, 15 with torp's
for total of group of 30 or more, that way you have a 1-2 punch every other turn and 1 punch each turn with each group.
just some ideas mac
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April 23rd, 2001, 05:54 PM
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Re: Strategic Help required!
Well, I'm currently spending 102% of my mineral income, most of it on mine construction.
My nature shrine III's will put me back in the black within 3 turns, though.
I don't have fighters yet (see the 1st post for an overview of everything)
I'm quite sure sats would be wiped out. The enemy has massive shielding, and powerful weapons.
The Jreanar use CSM/PlasM but have an APB XII also. The single Heavy-mount APB is enough to rip through my LCs shields and destroy most of it's armor in one shot .
Did I mention that I have +18% attack & defence racial traits?
quote: And how's the Intel of all sides?
I have 2.7k I'm currently storing intel points in defence, so I'm not getting hurt by enemy intel.
Jreanar: 56k intel (2nd place overall)
Phong: 86k intel (3rd place overall)
Krill: 25k intel (1st place overall) 10x my score!
All I've met is Phong & krill and some little guy who refused to surrender until the plague had wasted his homeworld to 300M.
The phong & Jreanar are really pounding on each other
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