What is the formula for shield blocking projectiles?

Joonie73 · #1 December 2nd, 2003, 05:25 PM

At least approximately?

Pocus · #2 December 2nd, 2003, 06:00 PM

good question, and the answer interest me too

Argitoth · #3 December 2nd, 2003, 08:05 PM

there was an answer around here somewhere.. i can't find the topic because i forgot which topic the answer was in.

I remember that defence doesn't help against arrows.. i'd like to see it re-stated anyway.

Kristoffer O · #4 December 2nd, 2003, 09:17 PM

I'm not sure anyone knows the formula, but if a square is hit there is a roll to see if someone is hit. Only shield defence is used (and perhaps something for fewer sizepoints than 6 in the square, but that might have been in an early dom1 Version).

If size does not count there might be a N/6 chance that the arrow misses, but I'm not certain. Size do matter in some way, but I'm not sure how.

Earlier the Air Shield spell added +6 def, but now Air Shield has been removed from the formula. It is now a percentage instead. Less opaque we hope.

Elmo · #5 December 2nd, 2003, 10:25 PM

IMHO it's better to leave some things unknown. The Last thing we want is to turn this game into an accountants wet dream.

Saber Cherry · #6 December 3rd, 2003, 05:21 AM

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Originally posted by Elmo:
IMHO it's better to leave some things unknown. The Last thing we want is to turn this game into an accountants wet dream.

Yeah! Ideally, I'd like all the unit stats hidden too, and have to guess the unit's weapons and armor from its name and bitmap

#7 December 3rd, 2003, 05:33 AM

Don't mind Cherrypie, she is just too computer programmy with too much time on her hands.

liga · #8 December 3rd, 2003, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
I'm not sure anyone knows the formula ...

What does it means ? Are you not the game designer ? So, at least you, are suppose to know what is coded inside the game ... or I have miss something ?

Anyway it could be nice to have (I hope it will be in the original manual/CD I'm waiting for) some detailed explanation to how the combat really works ... I'm an old wargames player and I like to know what happens!

good play and good luck to all
Liga

johan osterman · #9 December 3rd, 2003, 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by liga:

quote:
Originally posted by Kristoffer O:
I'm not sure anyone knows the formula ...

What does it means ? Are you not the game designer ? So, at least you, are suppose to know what is coded inside the game ... or I have miss something ?

Anyway it could be nice to have (I hope it will be in the original manual/CD I'm waiting for) some detailed explanation to how the combat really works ... I'm an old wargames player and I like to know what happens!

good play and good luck to all
Liga

Much of the code for dom 2 is reused dom 1 code, so it might be up to 6 years ago since the code was programmed. This means that there are not only forumlas that are forgotten but occasionally also features. Furthermore Kristoffer is not a programmer, Johan Karlsson does nearly all of the coding, Johan Karlsson has a highly selective memory and occasionally forgets his own birthdays. So there are plenty of formulas in dom 2 that no one presently knows. Quite frankly you would have to be autistic to know all dom 2 formulas.

As for the effectiveness of shields, the number of units in the square is not really that important to estimate the shield effectiveness as long as you know that there is a basic 10+(2d6) vs 10+(2d6)+(shield def) roll if the missile hits the square.

[ December 03, 2003, 06:53: Message edited by: johan osterman ]

liga · #10 December 3rd, 2003, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by johan osterman:
there is a basic 10+(2d6) vs 10+(2d6)+(shield def) roll if the missile hits the square.

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... OK .. that was the kind of formulas I was looking for and I hope to find things like that in then man ... anyway, I didn't realize dom I was so 'old' ... that means that is good becouse it means that is really a good and replayable game ...

thk
Liga