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Old January 27th, 2004, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: Is Vanheim generally considered overpowered? Just asking, I dont claim to know.

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My nataraja was self buffing quickness ethereal body and ironskin, then attacking rear. She had chainmail of displacement...
It's amazing how many people think of the Nataraja as a female being. I guess it's because hindu art often represents the human body in a manner that seems effeminate to western eyes.

Anyway "raja" is the sanskrit title for "lord", and Nataraja is just an avatar of Shiva, who is known to be a male deity.
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40 Valkyries? That's a huge wad of gold. Just play Abysia, make a couple Soul Contracts, and let the Devils pile up. By the time he has been able to buy 40 Valkyries, you'll have twice that number of Devils. I'll take a Devil over a Valkyie any day.
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40 Valkyries? That's a huge wad of gold. Just play Abysia, make a couple Soul Contracts, and let the Devils pile up. By the time he has been able to buy 40 Valkyries, you'll have twice that number of Devils. I'll take a Devil over a Valkyie any day.
2400 (or so) gold spent on a side, and on the other construction 6 researched, one dwarven hammer, 120 slaves, plus surely one or two +1 blood items on the other side. Are you not overstating a bit your case?
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My nataraja was self buffing quickness ethereal body and ironskin, then attacking rear. She had chainmail of displacement...
It's amazing how many people think of the Nataraja as a female being. I guess it's because hindu art often represents the human body in a manner that seems effeminate to western eyes.

Anyway "raja" is the sanskrit title for "lord", and Nataraja is just an avatar of Shiva, who is known to be a male deity.

The issue isn't helped by games like Final Fantasy (multiple Versions)where Shiva has always been a female summon. That made me laugh when I first saw "him" step out of a block of ice as a bikini-clad ice queen.
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nataraja is one of 3 supreme god in Hinduism. He has a wife named Parvati(daughter of Himalaya-8848),and a elephant son Ganesh. obviously, FF11' artist have made a mistake here^^



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Combat started around turn 22 or so between us. He did an amphibious landing on the Pythium players capitol. The Pyth player and I were border skirmishing when his cap got captured and then the Van player just began to pick up Pyths provinces while I tried to convince the Pyth player i'd leave him alone to try and stop Van. By the time we engaged it was maybe turn 30-31? Thats alot of time to be producing an army thats gonna take minimal losses Indi hunting and saving it up for major confrontations. I also made a couple rather large mistakes. I forgot to finish my Nataraja's script one time so HE just stood there after buffing up and got killed by militia /sigh ;p. Later on I had a massive army probably 20+ phants and over 100 hyps attack a province. Well I scouted the wrong province apparently because the one I ended up attacking had two pretenders and about 150 vine ogres. Lord of Fertility and Great Mother...It wasnt pretty ;p

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