Dominion Spread

[Kristoffer O]

Originally posted by ceremony:

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Originally posted by Pocus:
* I once read somewhere that victory points provinces help spread the dominions, any infos on this?

"Posessing a province with a victory point in will cause that province to spread dominion like a temple."

-from a post by Johan Osterman

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Actually, as VP's are intended to be of equal importance to everyone they count as a temple of a god whose dominion strength is 5 (but that matters little - you rarely have many).

[ January 27, 2004, 17:34: Message edited by: Kristoffer O ]

[Psitticine]

Do 2 and 3 VP provinces have more effect? Seems like it might be logical for them to spread Dominion a bit more quickly, but that's a minor point.

[Kristoffer O]

No additional effect.

[Pocus]

Kristoffer, I propose than in the next patch, you add the source code as an added bonus. I need to check a thing or two.

[Kjeld]

AWESOME guide !

I have still a lot of questions For some of them, I have (more or less) educated guesses, but I'll post all of the regardless, so that this thread will hopefully contain ALL about dominion

Is there some kind of "domino" effect with temples ? ie : when you get a high dominion in a province with a temple/god/pretender and all surrounding provinces, will dominion spread in provinces 2 squares away ?

Is there a cap on how high or low a dominion can go ? If you have a (base dominion + nb of temples/5 ) > 10, it seems to me that the the additional points/temples (assuming these extra temples are not build on the dominion's frontiers, thus allowing for spread opportunities) are "wasted" ?

Alos, I am not sure how the blood sacrifices, and the Mictlan "penalty" fit in this picture.

When you perform a blood sacrifice (assuming you are not "forced" to do so to increased dominion, eg. abyssia or vanheim), how does it work ? Is it like priestly preaching (only in the province, with a cap ?), or will it "radiate" dominion like a temple or prophet ? How are the different elements (like the jade knife or whatever this magic item is called, or priest's holy level) factored in ?

With Mictlan, which of the following do not spread dominion : pretender, preaching, temples, prophet ? Only blood sacrifices will do anything ?

Also : how do dominion "killers" (like the artifact statue and the arch devils) work ? Automatic decrease, or only a weighted chance to reduce dominion ?

Thanks in advance for all answers

[ceremony]

Originally posted by Kjeld:
Is there some kind of "domino" effect with temples ? ie : when you get a high dominion in a province with a temple/god/pretender and all surrounding provinces, will dominion spread in provinces 2 squares away ?

As far as I know, yes - if dominion spreads to a province where the current dominion is already maximum, it will spread to another province.

Originally posted by Kjeld:
Is there a cap on how high or low a dominion can go ?

I believe dominion is capped at 10.

Originally posted by Kjeld:
Also, I am not sure how the blood sacrifices, and the Mictlan "penalty" fit in this picture.

The whole Mictlan section of dominion is being written - that part of the dominion chapter is still not done, but I put it aside for some moments because I got tired of writing about dominion!

I will add the VP explanation to the section also.

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by Kjeld:
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Also : how do dominion "killers" (like the artifact statue and the arch devils) work ? Automatic decrease, or only a weighted chance to reduce dominion ?

Thanks in advance for all answers

They work like a priest preaching but for reduction only.

[ January 27, 2004, 21:54: Message edited by: johan osterman ]

[HJ]

Originally posted by ceremony:
I believe dominion is capped at 10.

Actually it's not if you're playing Fires of Faith Marignon. I think it can go to 20 in that case.

[General Tacticus]

Originally posted by Chris Byler:
Even for Mictlan? That could be very useful as Mictlan normally pays (in blood) for every candle.

Well, their god gets them SOME dominion. But not much.

Are you sure ? I haven't noticed any dominion increase from my God. Of course, it's one of the Mictlan-only ones, and it says in their description that they must have blood to spread Dominion, perhaps a generic pretender still spread dominion ?

[Coffeedragon]

Originally posted by ceremony:
I've put together a short primer on dominion and its spread and effects. All the mechanisms you ask about are there:

http://www.maladjustite.com/dominion.pdf

This is just awesome; can´t wait for the other chapters!

Reading well-written stuff on a classic game is part of the fun of gaming for me. And your contributions I rate 5 out of 5.