SETI - Off Topic - Page 2

Possum · #11 May 20th, 2001, 08:51 PM

It never ceases to amaze me how naive and guillible some people can be

Like our control-obsessed federal government is ever going to really allow you access to information of such potentially explosive importance. This are the same feds who still refuse to de-classify information from nearly a hundred years ago. Get a clue, folks, you're being duped.

capnq · #12 May 20th, 2001, 10:41 PM

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Like our control-obsessed federal government is ever going to really allow you access to information of such potentially explosive importance.

The feds' reach exceeds their grasp. There's no way they can block all the inbound signals from every direction around the planet, and no way to control the distribution of the information.

The trouble with most conspiracy theories is that they require a level of competence that human institutions have never demonstrated.

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Cap'n Q

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft

Baron Munchausen · #13 May 21st, 2001, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by Possum:
It never ceases to amaze me how naive and guillible some people can be

Like our control-obsessed federal government is ever going to really allow you access to information of such potentially explosive importance. This are the same feds who still refuse to de-classify information from nearly a hundred years ago. Get a clue, folks, you're being duped.

This has nothing to do with the government. The radio telescope, the researchers who wrote the programs, the sponsors, the computer systems, and everything else are academic or private. Unless the political order in this country is a whole lot different than it has seemed all of my life, there's no G-man approving scientific research projects or filtering the data stream in and out of universities... yet! Not that there aren't a lot of G-men who'd like to appoint themselves to the job! What's 'explosive' about a signal from an alien civilization? Will it let you over-throw the Govt?

I think they're much more worried about people learning how to make explosives and/or firearms in their own homes than they are about a bunch of geeks competing in the SETI easter egg hunt.

rdouglass · #14 May 21st, 2001, 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Actually, there's more than ONE Space Empires Seti team. Both of these teams are small enough as it is. We need to consolidate! Can teams be merged? Can we persuade the members of one to join the other?

[This message has been edited by Baron Munchausen (edited 20 May 2001).]

Yes, there are 2 'cause I created the second one before I completely checked it out. I am now using the Space Empires (with a space) instead of SpaceEmpires. That is the only other Space Empires group I've seen..

zen. · #15 May 23rd, 2001, 04:01 PM

Hmmmm...maybe rename it to something the average user might pick up on easily...like 'Space Empires Forum' or something. Who are the other guys, anyway? They might not even know about this most beloved game.

zen

rdouglass · #16 May 23rd, 2001, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by zenbudo:
Hmmmm...maybe rename it to something the average user might pick up on easily...like 'Space Empires Forum' or something. Who are the other guys, anyway? They might not even know about this most beloved game.

zen

If you read the group info (for Space Empires) it talks about SE3. I haven't noticed anyone's numbers going up recently so they may not even be active. (I'm RogerD in that group.)

I personally don't care where we put 'em. If someone wants to create a group with a little more detail (I'm not sure why), feel free and maybe I'll put my results in there (I have over 1400 now).

JLXC · #17 May 24th, 2001, 02:12 AM

I'd just like to start by saying this is my opinion right or wrong. I believe that the Gov't, at least Cells of it, know all about Aliens. They've seen them, they have their crafts, they know. The can Easily monitor All transmissions in and out of earth. I believe that the current "Project Disclosure" team is being totally honest and that SETI and NASA are either in the Fooled employee or "In the Know" Groups, with almost ALL of them just having been fooled.

Anyways, I know I'm a crackpot... heh yeah right. I would suggest anyone wanting to know what's Really up going to http://www.cseti.org/

Of course this is just an opinion, an Informed one, but just an opinion.

raynor · #18 May 25th, 2001, 08:25 AM

I checked out the website you mentioned and read some of the key beliefs of those folks. The most interesting was this one:

They believe that we have been studying alien technology for such a long time that we now have all the technology we need to end poverty, world hunger and disease but that the government is hiding this technology.

... I'll let other folks comment on this.

JLXC · #19 May 25th, 2001, 08:37 AM

My reaction too raynor, until you read WHY the people in the know is keeping this from us. It's not pretty, but it makes perfect sense.

With all our petty squabbling for power will we ever be able to get ahead?