Good game, but....the AI is very bad.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
Name ONE game that has truly had good AI.

Other than games where a decision tree can be mapped out for all possible combinations of moves like Chess, I don't think that such a thing exists anywhere.

[Gandalf Parker]

There have been plenty of people here talking about the AI. Some of them program at various levels and have said that it would not be easy, simple, or quick. A single-threaded AI is going to be a hard project to patch. And other methods would be a major rewrite (scripted AIs are a great thing but everything in the game has to have a script-handle written into the code for it to work)

Thre are some threads that are helping the subject along. Do a search for
SUGGESTION: AI castle building algorithm
SUGGESTION: AI troop building algorithm

both of which need people who are wiling to test their ideas and post results.

[MStavros]

Well I am here now.
I am mainly playing multip. games now, unlike my bro, but this is just because the AI is so crap still.
After that huge discussion in december (20 pages long thread about the AI), even I am annoyed a bit, that after all these patches the AI is the same. This means one thing. The developers can't be bothered about the AI. You don't like these opinions? YOu have the right, but don't forget it seems so that they can't be bothered about it. Is it good? Not at all!
Personally this is my favourite game, but Illwinter is not my favourite gaming company.

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
Name ONE game that has truly had good AI.

Other than games where a decision tree can be mapped out for all possible combinations of moves like Chess, I don't think that such a thing exists anywhere.

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Actually Galactic Civilizations would be fairly ultimate in mentioning AI. In conversations in the real Artificial Intelligence sites it gets mentioned. Its still fairly new to the Windows envirnment but still keeps alot of its abilities.

But there is a big difference between building an AI and adding a game to it, versus building a game then adding an AI for testing and soloplayers.

[ May 08, 2004, 23:26: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

[proteus]

Mr. Parker, the galciv AI is really good, I must agree, but the homm3 AI is even better.

The comp rocking there. Sometimes it is making so huge and powerful armies that I need all my skill to beat it somehow with nasty tricks!
Sometimes I even loose against the AI.
Hardcore strategy fans should give it a try, its a huge challange.

In dominions 2. I win all games against 1-8 comps on all settings.
This tells about everything.

[ May 08, 2004, 23:29: Message edited by: proteus ]

[Molog]

One easy "improvement" would be to give the AI cheating powers.
Add a new level super-impossible, where the AI pays only 25% upkeep, has a 5% chance to have a castle build in a random province and gets a 50% research bonus.

This would satisfy the people who want a challenge and is relatively simple to do.

[MStavros]

mmmmmm, I had an idea in the past, regarding these LI AI armies.
Maybe a mod what removes all LI from the game should help in the 'weak LI AI armies' problem?
I wonder what would the AI do without LI...maybe it would make kickass armies.

This wouldn't solve the other problems, but maybe one! [weak LI AI armies.]
Any opinions about this?

[MStavros]

I hate cheating AIs. .. thats the Last thing what the devs should do if you ask me.

[Molog]

I know AOW, MOM have horrible cheating AI's. Most players don't seem to mind though.

[Vynd]

I like Dom II a lot, and I think that SP is fun. But difficult? No. Would I like to see the SP AI improved? Yes! Do I think its going to happen? No. But do proteus and his brother and whoever else have the right to complain about it? Heck yeah!