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Old June 18th, 2001, 03:11 PM
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Default Warp point closing error?

Has anyone ever had problems with multiple computer-controlled Close Warp Point ships converging and crashing the game? I'm assuming that they are all trying to close a warp point that was closed when the first ship got there.

Background (for those who want more details): A crash kept occuring on the Romulans' turn. I tracked it down to three or so Close Warp Point ships converging on one sector. I couldn't even avert it by controlling them because the order had already been given and was being executed. The ONLY way I managed to kill them was by controlling the nearby Sallega empire who happened to have an attack ship in the system. I doubt I'll be as lucky next time, though...has anyone ever had this happen to them? I'm using the latest Romulan AI and have never seen it happen before with any other race; was this just a fluke?

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Yes I had the same problem and mailed the savegame to MM. Unfortunately (as usual) I did not get a reply from them, so I do not know if they received and corrected it.
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Old June 20th, 2001, 03:21 PM
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Ah, okay, thanks! I'm glad it wasn't just me. How can people play for hundreds of turns and never have this happen? I'm only on turn 75 right now starting out with medium tech AND medium research costs and it's already happening. Logic would dictate that over the course of hundreds of turns, the AI would have attempted at some point to target multiple Close Warp Point ships on the same spot.

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Default Re: Warp point closing error?

Never try to apply logic to what the AI is doing. In any game. You'll just hurt yourself.
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Originally posted by Jubala:
Never try to apply logic to what the AI is doing. In any game. You'll just hurt yourself.


You must be all bruised up:

"The seems uncapable of evaluating a situation and responding accordingly"
-Jubala, posted 26 November 2000 19:57

"When I read that post I finally realised what had been nagging me about AI behaviour. It doesn't remember anything."
-Jubala, posted 28 November 2000 10:58

"I have seen huge undomed AI planets with mineral contrations of 149% being used as farming colonies when the organics concentration on that planet was 13%."
-Jubala, posted 06 December 2000 21:06

"...the AI doesn't reevaluate planets or scrap facilities to build computers or robotoid factories."
-Jubala, posted 06 December 2000 21:06

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You must be all bruised up:

[Snip old quotes from me]




Nah, those are all observations of AI behaviour. Not attempts to apply logic to that behaviour.

What kind of creeps me out is that you took the time to look up those old quotes. My very first forum stalker!
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LOL... sorry, that was just too funny.

On-topic: Yah, the mode switch that the AI does every turn when it assesses its situation does lead to a little ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder), doesn't it?

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What kind of creeps me out is that you took the time to look up those old quotes.


Creepy, huh!?

Or as I put when my wife is bugging me about my game cravings:
"Vadå, då? Jag har ju inget bättre för mig.."


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Creepy, huh!?

Or as I put when my wife is bugging me about my game cravings:
"Vadå, då? Jag har ju inget bättre för mig.."




Och hon låter dig komma undan med det? Kvinnor brukar annars vara rätt bra på att tala om för en vad man ska göra när man säger något sådant.

And now a translation to all the non-Swedes out there:

"Vadå, då? Jag har ju inget bättre för mig.."

"What? I don't have anything better to do.."

"Och hon låter dig komma undan med det? Kvinnor brukar annars vara rätt bra på att tala om för en vad man ska göra när man säger något sådant. "

"And she lets you get away with that? Women are usually pretty good at telling you what to do when you say something like that. "

Now bone up on Swedish real good everybody for when I've conquered the Earth that's going to be the official language.
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Damned evil Swedish conspiracies.
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