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December 18th, 2004, 12:09 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
Hmm... would that imply that if you found a way to skip the "I agree" portion of the installation (say you copied a CD image to your HD, found the text of the EULA, altered it, then burned a CD off the new image and installed) you'd be in the clear? I've suddenly got this strange desire to tinker....
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December 18th, 2004, 07:37 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
Another reason to read before you sign.
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December 18th, 2004, 08:16 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
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Another reason to read before you sign.
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How do you sign a CD?
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December 18th, 2004, 08:38 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
According to some EULA's, clicking the 'I Agree' button is the same as your legal signature.
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December 18th, 2004, 09:08 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
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According to some EULA's, clicking the 'I Agree' button is the same as your legal signature.
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December 18th, 2004, 09:32 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
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According to some EULA's, clicking the 'I Agree' button is the same as your legal signature.
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Most EULA's also have "playing the game means you agree to this"
Which happens to absurd..
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December 18th, 2004, 09:33 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
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How do you sign a CD?
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That's a good point. You can't agree to the EULA of a store bought game or app until after you've purchased it. If you don't agree to the EULA you've just wasted your money because you can't return opened software.
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Inalienable, well... depends on who you ask. Some hold that it is a part of free speech and therefor it would be. I'm not sure if I would take it that far. 
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December 18th, 2004, 09:40 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
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If you don't agree to the EULA you've just wasted your money because you can't return opened software.
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Wikipedia has a page on EULA:
Software license
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Assuming that publishers follow the correct procedures (such as giving the user the right to return the software for a refund), EULA licenses are generally enforceable. See ProCD v. Zeidenberg, 86 F.3d 1447 (7th Cir. 1996)
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December 18th, 2004, 09:47 PM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
So if they don't follow correct procedures with the EULA the license is no good and you can do whatever you want with the software? I'd hate to see that go to court in today's legal environment.
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December 19th, 2004, 04:27 AM
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Re: OT: An Interesting Read About Bit-Torrents
Not whatever you want, as copyright and patent are law still in full effect as applicable, but the standard stuff you would be both able and permitted to do with a book you purchased, yeah.
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