Does anybody know?

[FrankTrollman]

Spell Penetration, does anybody know off the top of their head whether it applies to the overland energy attack spells? Fires From Afar, Murdering Winter, Flaming Spheres, etc.?

I know it does for Mind Hunt (wonderful spell), but I don't know about the mass death spells, they don't really say.

-Frank

[Saber Cherry]

Penetration only effects spells with an MR roll. The ones you mentioned do not. Anything that involves damage from poison, fire, lightning, and ice (unless I'm forgetting a spell) ignores magic resistance.

[Zen]

Only spells with a MR check count penetration.

Vengeance of the Dead
Imprint Souls
Mind Hunt

Everything else relies on resistances and physical damage, even Burden of Time.

[FrankTrollman]

Are you sure about that? I've seen Crones live for a very very long time under the influence of Burden of Time. I've also lost Sea Kings straight up from the same spell, and the difference in hit points and protection between those units is night and day.

BTW, does anyone know how much damage something like Wrath of God (or apparently Burden of Time) is? I kill a lot of Soulless with Wrath of God, so I'm figuring that it's got to be like 15+ points of damage...

-Frank

[FrankTrollman]

Question II: Does your Spell Penetration count when you use "on-hit" attacks? In short, does a spellfocus improve your chances with Tartarian Chains?

I know for a fact that having a big pile of Fire Magic improves the fire damage inflicted by your charcoal shields...

-Frank

[Zen]

FrankTrollman said:
Are you sure about that? I've seen Crones live for a very very long time under the influence of Burden of Time. I've also lost Sea Kings straight up from the same spell, and the difference in hit points and protection between those units is night and day.

The randomosity is pretty out there. Since it's such a large spell that is targeted by Nation per turn. A good way to test this for yourself, if you don't believe me, is to use BoT with Jotunehiem and Giants, or play with BoT and GoH. MR may have a tiny factor to do with it, but not from what I have seen.

BTW, does anyone know how much damage something like Wrath of God (or apparently Burden of Time) is? I kill a lot of Soulless with Wrath of God, so I'm figuring that it's got to be like 15+ points of damage...

I don't know the exact number, more than likely the exact same as a Lightning Bolt. Why Wrath is so deadly is because the damage is AP.

[Zen]

FrankTrollman said:
Question II: Does your Spell Penetration count when you use "on-hit" attacks? In short, does a spellfocus improve your chances with Tartarian Chains?

No. Penetration doesn't affect spell-like effects from on-hit items. They are totally seperate weapons and have no impact from penetration.

I know for a fact that having a big pile of Fire Magic improves the fire damage inflicted by your charcoal shields...

-Frank

Fire Magic affects the Fire Shield Spell (7+1 Damage per level of Fire). And the Charcoal Shield just gives you a Fire Shield and any current levels of Fire are added to the effect by Hardcode. I can't think of any other items that are like this off the top of my head, even Regeneration and Nature Paths.

[FrankTrollman]

BTW, when a unit is "killed" by Burden of Time, it suffers exactly 999 points of damage. With a prophet of a golem cult, for example, it is possible to exceed 999 hit points. Does anybody know whether it reports the character as "dead" if they suffer 999 damage and live from a Burden of Time?

(I figured this one out when Burden of Time killed one of my Hall of Famers).

-Frank

[The_Tauren13]

Im willing to bet a units health cannot and will not exceed 999. It will probably just arbitrarily limit, as do gems.

[Endoperez]

What about Golem Cult Sphinx Pretender in high positive dominion? I seem to remember that I had a Sphinx once with over 1000 hp, but I'm not sure.

Are you sure that wasn't 9999 damage?