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[tesco samoa]

Currently I am reading the WW1 Alt history series by turtledove. I really like it and would recommend it.

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Originally posted by Puke:
hey, I think my uncle had a company that did that.. umm.. forgot their name

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The big names back in the 70s were Nuclear Data Corp. in Schaumberg IL, Tennelec & Tennecomp in Oak Ridge TN, and Canberra. The system I developed was for Neutron Activation Analysis, which method really came into its own (after I graduated) years later when the govt started using it in forensics. Before that it was just a seldom used alternative to traditional chemical analysis. The important thing about NAA is the evidence does not get damaged much by the process....
A thumbnail sketch of my technique may be interesting. Basically when performing observations on data which can be divided into counting bins by an observed trigger event magnitude you will have a background or baseline trend from the first to Last bin. Superimposed on that series of line segments are random scatter and the peaks produced by the events of interest. The random scatter has standard deviation of sqrt(N) where N is the baseline value at the bin. If a group of consecutive data values when averaged exceed the threshold number of standard deviations for their size then a statistically significant event has occurred. The quantification of the event depends on the nature of the events being observed. Unlike traditional least squares and spline curve fits, my system just said here is an event of size x, with centroid c, error percentage p, height h, etc. without attempting to fit a curve. The baseline was interpolated under events using the local trend lines established by nearby areas where no events occurred. Rule of thumb : Any observable whose behavior cannot be demonstrated to be statistically insignificant is an event and must be explained. Anyway here is more :
Ok, here are books taken directly from an 86 printout of FCP-HOTDISK ISSUE 1 page 37-38.
John Dalmas - Homecoming
Arsen Darnay - The Splendid Freedom
L. Sprague DeCamp - The Glory That Was, Lest Darkness Fall, The Fallible Fiend, Rogue Queen
Michael DeLarrabeiti - The Borribles
Ansen Dibell - Pursuit of the Screamer
Gordon R. Dickson - In Iron Years, Mission To Universe, Naked To The Stars, None But Man, Outposter, The Pritcher Mass, Pro, Tactics of Mistake, Wolfling
David Drake - Bridgehead, Hammer's Slammers, Killer
G.C. Edmondson - The Man Who Corrupted Earth
Suzette Hayden Elgin - Native Tongue, The Ozark Trilogy
Cynthia Felice - Godsfire
Robert L. Forward - Dragon's Egg, Flight of the Dragonfly
William R. Forstchen - Ice Prophet
Alan Dean Foster - Icerigger, The Man Who Used the Universe, Midworld
Leo Frankowski - The Cross-Time Engineer
Raymond Z. Gallun - The Eden Cycle
David Gerrold - A Matter For Men/ A Day For Damnation/ (add A Rage For Revenge), When Harlie Was One
Alexis A. Gilliland - The Revolution From Rosinante
Stephen Goldin - The Eternity Brigade
Phyllis Gottleib - A Judgement of Dragons
Ron Goulart - HellQuad
Joseph L. Green - Conscience Interplanetary, Star Probe
Roland Green - Peace Company
Russell M. Griffin - The Makeshift God
James E. Gunn - This Fortress World
Joe Haldeman - The Forever War, There Is No Darkness, Worlds
Charles L. Harness - The Catalyst, Redworld, Wolfhead
Harry Harrison - Astounding - John W. Campbell Memorial Anthology, The Deathworld Trilogy* Bill, the Galactic Hero* Make Room! Make Room!, A Stainless Steel Rat Is Born, To The Stars, West of Eden
Simon Hawke - The Ivanhoe Gambit
Ward Hawkins - Red Flame Burning
Robert A. Heinlein - Citizen of the Galaxy, Expanded Universe - The New Worlds of Robert A. Heinlein, Friday, Glory Road* Have Space Suit, Will Travel*, The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress, Orphans of the Sky, Starship Troopers, Stranger In A Strange Land, Time Enough For Love, Tunnel In The Sky
Zenna Henderson - Pilgrimage
Frank Herbert - Dune, Hellstrom's Hive, The Santaroga Barrier
P.C. Hodgell - Godstalk
Lee Hoffman - Always The Black Knight
James P. Hogan - The Genesis Machine, Inherit The Stars, Thrice Upon A Time, The Two Faces of Tomorrow
Bruce T. Holmes - Anvil Of The Heart
Robert Hoskins - To Control The Stars
Edward P. Hughes - The Long Mynd
Zach Hughes - For Texas And Zed, The Legend of Miaree, Seed Of The Gods, The Stork Factor

[This message has been edited by LCC (edited 10 August 2001).]

[Puke]

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Originally posted by LCC:
The big names back in the 70s were Nuclear Data Corp. in Schaumberg IL, Tennelec & Tennecomp in Oak Ridge TN, and Canberra.

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gamma-metrics, in southern CA, was the name i was searching for. Think it was founded in the 80s.

And from what I remember talking with the applications guys, the x-ray florescense stuff they were working on in the mid 90s in TX (company had been around since 80, i think) uses the same principals for determining and identifying events as what you describe.


back to the literature thread tho, I suppose that most people here are fans of millitary history as well as millitary SF. has anyone looked much into the winter war of 39-40? Man, it reads like a fairy tale. I am a big SF fan, but who needs fiction when we have events like that!

Ok, here are books taken directly from an 86 printout of FCP-HOTDISK ISSUE 1 page 39-40.
Dean Ing - High Tension, Pulling Through, Soft Targets, Systemic Shock
D.F. Jones - Denver Is Missing
J.A. Jones - Blue Lab
Colin Kapp - The Wizard of Anharite
James P. Kelley - Planet of Whispers
Carol Kendall - The Firelings
Gordon Kendall - White Wing
Lee Killough - Liberty's World, A Voice Out Of Ramah
Damon Knight - A for Anything
C.M. Kornbluth - Not This August
Michael Kurland - Tomorrow Knight, The Whenabouts of Burr
David J. Lake - The Right Hand of Dextra
Arthur H. Landis - Camelot In Orbit
David Langford - The Space Eater
Keith Laumer - Bolo, The Long Twilight, Star Colony, Worlds of the Imperium
Ursula K. Leguin - The Left Hand of Darkness
Fritz Leiber - A Specter Is Haunting Texas, The Wanderer
Edward Llewellyn - Prelude To Chaos, Salvage and Destroy
Barry B. Longyear - City of Barraboo, Manifest Destiny
Ardath Mayhar - Khi To Freedom
Ann McCaffrey - Decision At Doona, The Ship Who Sang
Michael McCollum - A Greater Infinity, Life Probe
Michael P. Kube McDowell - Enigma
Robert McLaughlin - The Man Who Wanted Stars
John C. McLoughlin - The Helix and the Sword
R.M. Meluch - Sovreign, Wind Dancers
Robert Merle - Malevil
Sam Merwin, Jr. - The House of Many Worlds
Walter M. Miller Jr. - A Canticle for Leibowitz
John Moressey - Frostworld and Dreamfire, The Mansions of Space
Sam Nicholson - The Light Bearer
Larry Niven - The Integral Trees, Protector, Ringworld
Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle - Footfall, Lucifer's Hammer, The Mote In God's Eye, Oath of Fealty
Andre Norton - Dark Piper, Moon Of Three Rings, Star Rangers, The Zero Stone
Kevin O'Donnell - War of Omission
Andrew J. Offutt - The Galactic Rejects
David R. Palmer - Emergence
Edgar Pangborn - West of the Sun
Alexis Pansin - Rite of Passage, Star Well
Steve Perry - The Man Who Never Missed
John T. Phillifent - Genius Unlimited, King of Argent, Life With Lancelot
Wendy & Richard Pini - Elfquest
H. Beam Piper - Little Fuzzy, Paratime
Doris Piserchia - Earthchild, Mr. Justice
Fred Pohl - Black Star Rising, The Coming of the Quantum Cats, The Cool War, Gateway
Fred Pohl & C.M. Kornbluth - The Space Merchants
Fred Pohl & Jack Williamson - Farthest Star

Ok, here are books taken directly from an 86 printout of FCP-HOTDISK ISSUE 1 page 41-42.
Jerry Pournelle - A Spaceship for the King, Janissaries, West of Honor
E. Hoffman Price - The Devil Wives of Li Fong, Operation Longlife
Richard Purtill - The Golden Gryphon Feather
John Rackham - Beanstalk
Mack Reynolds - Ability Quotient, Brain World, Lagrange Five, Rolltown, Section G : United Planets, The Space Barbarians, Trample An Empire Down
posthumously with Dean Ing - Eternity, Home Sweet Home 2000 AD, The Other Time
Mike Resnick - Santiago
Walt & Leigh Richmond - The Probability Corner
John Maddox Roberts - Cestus Dei, The Cingulum
Stephen Robinett - Stargate
Kim Stanley Robinson - The Wild Shore
Spider Robinson - Telempath
Joel Rosenberg - Emile and the Dutchman
Christopher Rowley - The War for Eternity
Eric Frank Russell - Next of Kin, Wasp
Thomas J. Ryan - The Adolescence of P1
Fred Saberhagen - The Complete Book of Swords
Jake Saunders & Howard Waldrop - The Texas - Israeli War : 1999
Dennis Schmidt - Way-Farer
Stanley Schmidt - The Sins of the Fathers
James H. Schmitz - Agent of Vega, The Demon Breed, The Eternal Frontiers, Legacy, The Universe Against Her
J. Neil Schulman - Alongside Night
Melissa Scott - Five Twelfths of Heaven
Bob Shaw - The Ceres Solution
Michael Shea - A Quest for Simbilis, Nifft The Lean
Mike Shupp - With Fate Conspire
Robert Silverberg - Collision Course, Those Who Watch
Clifford D. Simak - A Heritage of Stars, The Goblin Reservation, Way Station
John Slonczewski - Still Forms on Foxfield
Cordwainer Smith - Norstrilia
E.E. "Doc" Smith - Triplanetary
George O. Smith - The Fourth "R"
L. Neil Smith - The Probability Broach, Their Majesties Bucketeers
Zilpha Keatly Snyder - Below The Root
Steven G. Spruill - Keepers of the Gates
Brian Stapleford - The Castaways of Tanager, The Gates of Eden, The Halcyon Drift, Optiman
Christopher Stasheff - A Wizard in Bedlam
John Steakly - Armor
Andrew M. Stephenson - Nightwatch
George R. Stewart - Earth Abides
John E. Stith - Scapescope
Brad Strickland - To Stand Beneath the Sun
Theodore Sturgeon - More Than Human
G. Harry Stine - The Third Industrial Revolution
Jefferson P. Swycaffer - Not In Our Stars
Keith Taylor - Bard
Walter Tevis - The Man Who Fell To Earth
Patrick Tilley - Cloud Warrior
J.R.R. Tolkein - The Fellowship Of The Ring
Robert E. Toomey Jr. - A World of Trouble

Ok, here are books taken directly from an 86 printout of FCP-HOTDISK ISSUE 1 page 43-44.
Louis Trimble - The Bodelian Way, The City Machine
Wilson Tucker - The Lincoln Hunters
Jack Vance - The Anome, The Blue World, City Of the Chasch, The Dying Earth, The Many Worlds of Magnus Ridolf, Rhialto the Marvelous, Star King
A.E. Van Vogt - The Darkness of Diamondia, The Weapon Shops of Isher
John Varley - Millenium, The Ophiuchi Hotline, Titan
Joan D. Vinge - The Outcasts of Heaven Belt
Vernor Vinge - Grimm's World, The Peace War, The Witling
Ian Wallace - Croyd
Walter Wangerin - The Book of the Dun Cow
George Warren - Dominant Species
Lawrence Watt-Evans - The Cyborg and the Sorcerers, Shining Steel
James White - All Judgement Fled, Hospital Station, Tomorrow Is Too Far, The Watch Below
Wynn Whiteford - Sapphire Road
Cherry Wilder - The Luck of Brin's Five
John Willett - Aubade for Gamelon
Walter John Williams - Ambassador of Progress
Jack Williamson - Lifeboat
F. Paul Wilson - An Enemy of the State
John Wyndham - Re-Birth
Nicholas Yermankov - Last Communion
Robert F. Young - The Last Yggdrasill
Timothy Zahn - The Blackcollar, Spinneret
Roger Zelazny - Doorways In The Sand, This Immortal

Well page 44 was only one line, so I will do page 45 too - classic literature worth looking over if you are tired of science fiction.
Julius Caesar - War Commentaries of Caesar
Homer - The Iliad and the Oddyssey
Plutarch - Fall of the Roman Republic
Virgil - The Aenid
Xenophon - The Persian Expedition
Giovanni Boccaccio - The Decameron
Daniel Defoe - Robinson Crusoe
Charles Dickens - Great Expectations, Oliver Twist, The Old Curiosity Shop
Alexandre Dumas - The Count of Monte Cristo
George Eliot (Mary Ann Evans Cross) - Silas Marner
Victor Hugo - The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Jerome K. Jerome - Three Men In A Boat
Rudyard Kipling - Kim, Captains Courageous
Charles Reade - The Cloister and the Hearth
Sir Walter Scott - Ivanhoe
Henryk Sienkiewicz - The Knights of the Cross
Robert Lewis Stevenson - Treasure Island, Kidnapped
Mark Twain - everything
Leslie Barringer - Gerfalcon
Thornton W. Burgess - everything
James Clavell - Shogun
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle - The Illustrated Sherlock Holmes Treasury
Thor Heyerdahl - Kon-Tiki
Ayn Rand - Atlas Shrugged
Nevil Shute - On the Beach
Jacqueline Suzanne - Once Is Not Enough
Robert Penn Warren - All the Kings Men
Herman Wouk - The Caine Mutiny

Some of the previous books that I particularly recommended in 1986 from page 79 :
Lloyd Biggle - The Still, Small Voice of Trumpets
John Brunner - The Stone That Never Came Down
Daniel DaCruz - The Ayes of Texas
G.C. Edmondson - The Man Who Corrupted Earth
Alan Dean Foster - The Man Who Used The Universe
David Gerrold - When Harlie Was One
Robert A. Heinlein - The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress
Frank Herbert - The Santaroga Barrier
James P. Hogan - The Genesis Machine
Zach Hughes - For Texas and Zed
Dean Ing - Systemic Shock
C.M. Kornbluth - Not This August
Keith Laumer - The Long Twilight
Edward Llewellyn - Salvage and Destroy
Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle - Oath of Fealty
Kevin O'Donnell - War of Omission
Steve Perry - The Man Who Never Missed
Fred Pohl - The Cool War
Jerry Pournelle - West of Honor
Mack Reynolds - Trample An Empire Down
Walt & Leigh Richmond - The Probability Corner
John Maddox Roberts - Cestus Dei
Eric Frank Russell - Wasp
Thomas J. Ryan - The Adolescence of P1
J. Neil Schulman - Alongside Night
L. Neil Smith - The Probability Broach
George O' Smith - The Fourth "R"
John E. Stith - Scapescope
Vernor Vinge - The Peace War
Walter John Williams - Ambassador of Progress
F. Paul Wilson - An Enemy of the State

Time fades the memory of books read so long ago, but how little things change! It has been 15 years and I would hesitate to change anything in the lists. I can vaguely recall each book as I type it, and get a feel that it is still good, but not why. So unless there are typos the list is the same as it was way back then. I still have the hardcopy, and at least 20 other people do too, because the ones I sent it to are not the type to just throw something away because they do not understand it. Also there are all the disks I sent out. Many were to Amiga stores for free distribution. So if you can find somebody who can put Scribble! together with a copy of the disk, then you have your very own copy not only of the lists but also of the other things I wanted to say back then. I am sure the forum Users will ask ME questions, but I was thinking of all the casual visitors who cannot post to ask me. Well dawn has broken so it is time for a day sleeper like me to pack it in. Time is far too short as the years pass by. It used to be that I could stay up 40 hours and just take a nap on the floor (so I would not be too comfortable), then go another round when I woke up. That is how I was able to put out the first disk so fast after being laid off from my job. But if I did something like that now, my family would probably think I was crazy and throw me in an asylum.

Unless somebody objects, I am willing to find a copy of the disk 2 printout so I can type up the far longer list of authors and titles worth reading once. Most of those books have gone out of print as authors died or publishers went bankrupt, tying up the copyrights for years. Also there was just not enough popular demand for some of them to stay in print. But if you search in used bookstores, you just might get lucky and find some of them. Of course you could get MY whole collection lock stock and barrel for $100,000. For the avid collector it would be a bargain, since it took me ten years to assemble my collection. With the recent move, I am strapped for cash right now, and it would be a big help. Instead of having to find a job, I could read books and produce another list that includes books after 86 for interested readers in just a few more years. Just a plug by a lazy man after a long night of slaving over the keyboard..........

[tesco samoa]

back to the literature thread tho, I suppose that most people here are fans of millitary history as well as millitary SF. has anyone looked much into the winter war of 39-40? Man, it reads like a fairy tale. I am a big SF fan, but who needs fiction when we have events like that!

Hey Puke which theater of operation are you talking about? I read alot of military history.

Ok now, that was real cute. I am not even going to read the forum until after I type this up offline. I am starting to get really annoyed by it. I am a thick skinned and very tolerant person, but I have reached the OUTER LIMITS. I am now on COMPANY time, and it is no longer a personal matter. Do NOT attack the USA. Do NOT attack their friends. Do NOT attack ANYBODY ELSE. Do NOT make a MOVE until you think LONG and HARD about the consequences. Who do you think owns the BIG house ? Who do you think makes the guidelines ? There is only so much slack in a line, and you took IT ALL UP. Round and Round the Mulberry Bush the Monkey Chased the Weasle, the Monkey thought it was ALL FOR FUN, when POP goes the Weasle. It never learned its nursury rhymes, and now IT MUST PAY the CONSEQUENCES. I neglected to SAY before but I WILL NOW. If you want my collection, you must agree to follow the guidelines, items 1) through 6) in my response to geoschmo in the thread "OT - How Does Schrapnel Stay In Business". If you are not able to follow them, do not bother to ask. I will be back later to check the forum. Right now, I am going to take a shower, because I feel slimy.

In case some of you are STILL not familiar with my History, I will point out a few things. In 1997 when it crashed the stock market, I was going to reveal what it was doing. I started a series of Posts in misc.invest.marketplace but you know how the old tend to ramble. Anyway, it got my family and they drugged me with a psychotic. I retained enough sense to send some fragmented explanations to Aol and Apple Webmasters. But those just convinced the government that I was crazy. So they drugged me down with Haldol until June of 2000 by court order that I was a Paranoid Schizophrenic. When the shakes got so bad that even the doctors were ashamed, they let me switch to Risperidone. I started to come out of the fog Last December and purchased SE IV. But my family had me firmly under control until we moved. That was its mistake - I spent the night alone in the new house and started to recover. Even so it took me a week to catch on that my computer was hacked. Simplest test of ALL is GOTO the windows subdirectory tasks and watch very closely when you OPEN IT UP. The entire display fills with task icons, which are immediately erased. So unless you are REALLY WATCHING you will miss it. MY advice is to simply CLEAR IT OUT because Norton Antivirus and all the rest of the security software will not work in a system already hacked by IT. IN PARTICULAR you should immediately stop any task that you did not install yourself and boot off floppy in DOS, clearing all scheduled events in the tasks directory and re do the boot up sequence.

What really annoyed me was that it just tried to poison me again using my family and my mother fell down. By The Way, eat three bananas, drink a quart of water, bend over, and cough hard for 10-15 minutes until it comes clear. Repeat as often as necessary. Also, beware of "Vitamin" pills. I am just not alert enough yet to list all of its tricks. Now would be a GOOD TIME for the forum to STOP BEING NEUTRAL and list its other tricks.

Finally, I am not a BOSS. I am an ENGINEER. If you can not tell the difference yet, then give me a little time and I will show you the WAY. But let me WARN you that it spoils the FUN when I show you EVERYTHING. Don't you just LOVE ENGLISH ?

[geoschmo]

Dude, uh please don't take this as a flame, but you're fried man.

Get some sleep. You are starting to worry me.

Geo