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September 20th, 2005, 03:50 PM
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Re: OT: Anyone here watch \'Lost\'?
I watch Lost. I look forward to new episodes as much as I looked forward to Firefly episodes. Which, is (was) a lot!
I think the writers have done a great job fleshing out the characters so we can get a good glimpse of thier character and what drives (drove) them. Story line? Not sure where it's going but have heard (read) some say they all died and are between earth and their final destination (be it heaven or hell). That this is just a sort of limbo. (shrug...who knows...maybe the writers don't know yet, LOL)
As to "minority tokens", they are what I refer to as complying with the success formula. The reason why Bruce Willis gets paired with Samuel L. Jackson...to pull in a diversified audience. To generalize, it pre-supposes that whites won't go see a "black" movie and blacks won't go see a "white" movie, so they mix and match to get everyone to come. (grin).
So, in Lost, we have more than the Korean couple filling that niche (so to speak). We even have "overweight" representation (LOL).
And, I just love the way Kate looks! (sorry)
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September 20th, 2005, 10:39 PM
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Re: OT: Anyone here watch \'Lost\'?
Alarikf, can I put that first rant on my webpage, please?
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September 21st, 2005, 01:21 AM
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Re: OT: Anyone here watch \'Lost\'?
Sure, no problem...and thanks for asking.
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September 21st, 2005, 06:53 AM
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Re: OT: Anyone here watch \'Lost\'?
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So you judge the show on an episode title?
What about the actual show did you not like?
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If you mean the one which concentrated on the husband, I thought it was good. We see things from the husbands perspective and learn that his wife is wrong about him, and that what he does is to protect her.
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... No, that is not the episode I am talking about. And no, I am not judging the show on an episode title - I had believed that that would be enough to show my beef with the show, but apparently it doesn't seem to have registered.
To clarify, my biggest beef with the show is that the creators seem to have chosen that korean couple to be the token minority figure. From what I have seen of their portrayals, they are too damn stereotypical, and even then the creators used the wrong stereotypes, seeming to liken their nation of origin with a particular nation neighbouring it.
The show, in it's other aspects is fine. It's got hobbits and aliens and adam and eve and everything. It's just that for a show to be entertaining to me, it has to get whatever it is portraying reasonably right or seemingly justified; Lost doesn't do that, at least not with the "korean" characters.
Edit: That's it. I've given this piece of turd that is hollywood enough attention. If you still don't know what I mean, PM me.
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I thought the Middle Eastern dude was the token minority..... or the black guy with the estranged kid.... or the fat guy.... or the guy in the wheel chair..... lol.
Seriously, IIRC TerranC IS of korean descent, sorry if thats supposed to be a secret or something but I can see where you're coming from  . If there was a cuban guy on that show, and he was a jazz musician who made bongos out of boar skins and a log or a was a baseball player, yeah i'd be kinda pissed too.
IMO middle eastern people got shafted a bit more then the asian in terms of portraial. You have 1 middle eastern guy on the flight, he just happens to be an ex-secret police officer trained in intell gathering, espianoge and torture, each of which he gets to employ on the show. His reason for being on the flight is he had to bury his friend who was a suicide bomber..... yeah unwitting mafia wife who knows acupunture and stooge yakuza husband who speaks half *** korean dilalects ain't so bad now eh  ?
Meh, I don't really sweat stuff like that, look at enterprise and the anti-vulcans, you expect to much from writers(BTW I hear "Knocker Spocker" from enterprise has a role in the new season, and what's her name that voiced Leela on futurama, from married with children....). Aside from occasionally dumb characters the show is pretty fun, got a good cliffhanger vibe from episode to episode, like an old radio show(complete with racial stereotypes...). My only problem is that I know this can't end well, same gut feeling i get from battle star galactica, you know it's going to turn into Lost 1984 where the descendants of the stradees try to survive, then integrate into society while running from polar bears.....
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September 21st, 2005, 02:16 PM
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Re: OT: Anyone here watch \'Lost\'?
You know, if they took this LOST formula and applied it to a Sci-Fi show where as it was a space liner that crashed on a distant world... ohh that would be interesting.
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September 22nd, 2005, 11:34 AM
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Re: OT: Anyone here watch \'Lost\'?
So, what did everyone think of episode one of season two? All I can really say is my jaw was hanging wide open most of the show. Shocking events and very well done episode. I cannot wait until next week.
Did anyone watch Invasion following that? I did, it looks like it could be an interesting show. Will wait to reserve judgement until a couple more episodes.
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September 22nd, 2005, 01:28 PM
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Re: OT: Anyone here watch \'Lost\'?
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You know, if they took this LOST formula and applied it to a Sci-Fi show where as it was a space liner that crashed on a distant world... ohh that would be interesting.
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Not quite the same, but anyone remember this?
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...fpart=all&vc=1
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September 23rd, 2005, 12:46 AM
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Re: OT: Anyone here watch \'Lost\'?
I once saw a sci-fi version of a hitchock movie once. In the original they were stuck on a lifeboat after their liner sunk. In the sci-fi version their spaceship blew up and they had to find the killer in the lifepod.
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September 23rd, 2005, 01:51 AM
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Re: OT: Anyone here watch \'Lost\'?
Thanks for the link Dogscoff, it was a good read.  You might consider writing for a profession my friend.
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September 23rd, 2005, 04:50 AM
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Re: OT: Anyone here watch \'Lost\'?
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Thanks for the link Dogscoff, it was a good read. 
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Note though that I didn't write all of the "Lifeboat" story. The idea was that I start it off and everyone else carries on. Geo wrote a chapter or two, and I think maybe someone else (or maybe not.) I'd love it if someone else picked this up and ran with it again.
AT, it seems like ages since I've seen you write anything. I used to really enjoy the Pandorans- you should add a chapter to this.
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Thanks, already working on that. I'm about 13000 words into my first novel as we speak. It's all top-secret-hush-hush though so don't expect to be seeing it at http://www.dogscoff.co.uk/fiction anytime soon.
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