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				October 7th, 2005, 08:52 AM
			
			
			
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				 Surrendering? 
 Hi,Maybe a really simple question but how does one surrender the current game? Is there a key like F9 in SPWAW? Now F9 seems to function the same way as 'Z'which doesn't do much good...
 
 BTW is there a list somewhere of all the keyboard commands available? The help doesn't seem to give a total list.
 
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				October 7th, 2005, 09:27 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Surrendering? 
 There are lists in the GG in various places and the Help file. Between the two the list should be complete
 We removed the surrender option a couple of years ago when it was proved to be used as a PBEM cheat
 
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				October 12th, 2005, 11:33 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Surrendering? 
 Why would you surrender?  You live or die for the honor of your nation's survival, my Norwegian friend.  It is most probable that surrender would mean the Gulag for such strong forces as the Norse, who in their viens boil the blood of the Vikings. Certainly, you would not want the blood-thirsty Russians plundering the riches from the lands your honorable, and humble, ancestors died upon.  How could there be surrender to the hands of the oppressors, dear Stian?  As the Wonderous General John Stark proclaimed, "Live Free Or Die; Death Is Not The Worst Of Evils." |  
	
		
	
	
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				October 13th, 2005, 01:56 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Surrendering? 
 You go, Sewter! I'm with you! No surrender. They'll get my gun when they pry it out of my hot grubby little hands!
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				October 13th, 2005, 04:11 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Surrendering? 
 Czesc some new idea
 Surrender option for the game need big code changes. If you push for example f9 your unit surrending if near 3 or 4 hexes are the enemy and see your unit. Your unit is taken to the enemy control without arms they are POWs. So now the enemy moust go with POWs unit to the map edge. If during this trip the POWs are take by you they are rearmed and go back for your control as your unit.
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				October 13th, 2005, 05:24 AM
			
			
			
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		| blazejos said: Czesc some new idea
 
 Surrender option for the game need big code changes. If you push for example f9 your unit surrending if near 3 or 4 hexes are the enemy and see your unit. Your unit is taken to the enemy control without arms they are POWs. So now the enemy moust go with POWs unit to the map edge. If during this trip the POWs are take by you they are rearmed and go back for your control as your unit.
 
 |  And would I be able to use the POWS in the Russian way of mineclearing?  
				__________________This post, as well as being an ambassador of death for the enemies of humanity, has a main message of peace and friendship.
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				October 13th, 2005, 09:09 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Surrendering? 
 Yes because they should be under control of your side. That idea is a very funny. In the casualities scren should be too a table deads enemy solider like today and captured enemy soliders. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Surrendering? 
 Then what about rummaging the battlefield for wounded/uncounscious soldiers? After all 'casualty' doesn't mean 'dead', so anytime a squad loses someone there should be a dice roll to check wether the guys is alive or not, then if he can be recaputred or anything, or even stand back up and fight, or rejoin his squad... 
Wow, now that gets complicated!
 
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				October 13th, 2005, 01:34 PM
			
			
			
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		| PlasmaKrab said: Then what about rummaging the battlefield for wounded/uncounscious soldiers? After all 'casualty' doesn't mean 'dead', so anytime a squad loses someone there should be a dice roll to check wether the guys is alive or not, then if he can be recaputred or anything, or even stand back up and fight, or rejoin his squad...
 Wow, now that gets complicated!
 
 And how about rearming your own POWs once you free them? Got spare weapons specially stacked for this case?
   
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200 casualties 
100 wounded 
80  kia 
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				 Re: Surrendering? 
 Yes you have right that should be a problem for game engine. This POW now don't have his previous wapon after your recaptured. Meayby the should be armed like today a crew pistol and a few granades. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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