Fire-9 bless needs rebalancing !

[Wish]

I mean like the lions, hawks, bears, and wolves

[Oversway]

Fire has better damage spells early game, although water has quickness.

Later in the game I think water is actually better - falling frost and fozen heart are better than falling fires and incinerate. Although fire has flaming arrows, which is really nice.

[PDF]

Fire-9 blessing for nations with low-cost sacred troops *is* unbalanced (as in "much efficient than other choices").

I won't add a pile of arguments, just speaking from experience : just note how many Mictlan and Marignon players use it :roll: !

[shovah]

as ive said marignon with a f9 high air phoenix can do some godly things with flagelants, that bless with the phoenix casting warriors of mist is fun

[Daynarr]

PDF said:

I won't add a pile of arguments, just speaking from experience : just note how many Mictlan and Marignon players use it :roll: !

Actually it's designed for those races in the first place. What's so strange that they are good with it?

[shovah]

i wouldnt really say its designed for mictain...

[Daynarr]

It's designed for each nation with cheap holy troops. Mictlan actually needs F9 blessing to survive early phases of the game. Even more so if he starts near Ulm.

[archaeolept]

ulm is a threat to mictlan????

F9 blessing solves mictlan's early game problems; but i daresay quickened jaguars and some imps would make short work of "let us all run away in our extremely heavy armor" ulmish troops.

even a death blessing would work against ulm. actually, pretty well anything would work...

[Cainehill]

I'd suspect Mictlan would need either fire-9 or a death blessing : without F9, they're not doing damage to Ulm, so no morale checks, unless they have fear from the death blessing. B9/N9 bonuses to strength don't seem like they'd be enough to get through the armor before Mict's troops were destroyed.

Although, Ulm not having any Sermon of Courage casters (aside from Prophet / random events) doesn't help them, at all, ever.

[Ironhawk]

Generally speaking I think it can be said that Fire-9 is the best blessing of them all. Yeah there are certain cases where you might want a different one, but for the most part its the #1 pick.

Whether or not it needs rebalancing.... well maybe it does. But what I'm more intersted to see would be a balancing of the blesses that are never picked. Like Air9, Death9, or Blood9. Earth9 too maybe. Yes, yes! I know that everyone is now going to come up with some random game with some really speicifc conditions in which they used the Air9 bless or something. The fact remains that when thinking of a bless strategy no one ever thinks of those paths first.

edit:
Some for examples for new blessings:
Air9: Flying (in combat)
Death9: Decay weapons
Blood9: +10hp

Now, these are probably a bit overboard - but they stopped and made you think, didnt they?? With blesses like that you will not consider a bless strat and only think of F9/W9/N9 as the way to go.