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[wulfir]

Nox said:
What I mean is that Sweden was neutral in 1941-1945. It was not in war whit any country.

Sweden was not at war 1930-1940 either yet you think a Swedish OOB might be allowed during this time...? That is a bit odd IMHO, the greatest threat of invasion came in 1942 in conjunction with the February crisis...? Not to mention the far advanced preparations for marching into Danmark/Norway in 1945…? Won’t be able to play those scenarios if you have your way.

US Army and USMC OOBs should be eliminated prior to Dec 1941 as well maybe...? It being a neutral country and all...?

Nox said:
As for the military support. If you count the selling of ammunition and old guns...

You don't count intelligence co-operation then..., not even Stella Polaris…?

Nox said:Neither did Sweden engage in actual fighting whit any country or deploy its forces to fight alongside other forces. A few thousand volunteers does not count for actual military support…..

No? When does it begin to count then…?

Nox said:So at that time the official oppinion of all the major powers was that Sweden was not giving military support to Finland and that Sweden remained a neutral country.

Official opinion heh…
It was convenient. Nobody was fooled by the so called neutrality.

Nox said:Also Sweden as every other neutral country was not neutral just because it was not engaging in the war. The neutral treaty was an official writen document signed whit all the major forces (USA, Great Britain, USSR, Germany) and breaking it would have had wery serious consequences.

The neutrality that never was…
It’s a myth.

The neutrality was broken on such numerous occasions during WWII and after that it’s almost like a poor joke.

[wulfir]

cbo said:
Rather than reducing the game to a limited number of countries available at very limited periods, it should be expanded as much as the developers have the time and energy for. Once you've played your 253rd German vs US encounter, that tends to get a bit old...

I agree with Claus. Include instead of reduce, the more possibileties the better. The ones who prefer to play that 254th German vs US encounter can still do it. For us who don't mind a little variation here's to hoping a Danish OOB gets included some time in the future.

If it does, we're coming you know. Dubbel svensk lösen!

[RubberNeck]

It is a great asset to the game to have these so-called 'minor' countries represented. Too many games (not to mention history texts) fail to give enough exposure to the roles played by these countries.

Even if a particular country did not mobilize an invasion force or other large scale operation there are often countless small internal engagements where the military or militia was used in countering sabotage, searching for escaped prisoners of war, civil uprising or even unofficial covert operations. These types of actions are prime material for gameplay and in my experience with the various SP games are often my favorites.

If someone is willing to spend the time to include these countries it can only benefit the entire SP community.

Rubberneck

[cbo]

Just dawned on my, that the Danish OOB should really be expanded to 1945 (or 1946 for what-ifs) as there was a brigade of Danish troops training in Sweden, equipped with Swedish weapons and intended to land in Denmark in case of an allied invasion. In the end, they sailed over when the Germans capitulated.
As per Wulfirs post - Swedish neutrality had a flexible quality to it

Claus B