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		Annette - maybe their attorneys are forum shopping and prefer the laws in NC and particularly Wake County! (j/k of course).  This is malpractice if their attorneys actually charged them a review fee on this one. Any action now arising from SE5 can only be brought in that County unless both parties consent to forum change.  What a mess! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		No offense, but I doubt the paper manuals are printed on trees cut down in the Amazon.  Trees harvested for paper are generally the product of tightly controlled harvesting of a renewable resource.  About the jewel cases you may have a point, although users can just buy their own empty cases cheaply anyway.  Saving the environment is a worthy goal, in any case. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		I remember back in the day getting full-color, glossy page game manuals with my Nintendo games. Now I'm lucky if I get a half-piece of printer paper with the company's name and the conroller layout. 
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		I love shrapnel games and think they are one of the best publisher of the games they shell on the net or in the world. 
  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		In this era of shrinkage - smaller boxes, smaller manuals, etc. it is a shame that manuals have fallen by the wayside. 
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		I'm sorry if I appear a bit slow but I don't GET the warranty thing. Did S1 just copy the warranty from Shrapnel since although they are in Canada they are quoting Shrapnels location? 
 
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		It doesn't mean you don't get a warrenty. It means- if the EULA is valid, and that's..questionable..that your local laws concering warrenties don't take effect, and instead any disputes have to use the laws and courts of North Carolina. 
By the way, amusing little tidbit in the SFI EULA: 
"You may not: ..Alter, decompile, modify reverse engineer or disassemble the Software,  create derivative works based upon the Software,.. 
..Upload or transmit the Software, or any portion thereof, to any electronic bulletin board, network, or other type of multi-use computer system regardless of purpose"
 
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				 By the way, amusing little tidbit in the SFI EULA:  
"You may not: ..Alter, decompile, modify reverse engineer or disassemble the Software, create derivative works based upon the Software,..  
..Upload or transmit the Software, or any portion thereof, to any electronic bulletin board, network, or other type of multi-use computer system regardless of purpose"  
 
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