A new TDM game test.

[Master Belisarius]

I have started a new game with all the TDM races + the Vikings (hey, considering the great job that Rollo did, I can't exclude them!).

Game settings:
Large galaxy.
3 Starting planets
No Black Holes
No ruins
Can view all the scores.
All the others options, standard.

Races: Praetorians, Earth Alliance, Rage, Aquilaeian, Orks, Pyrochette, Vaxin, Vikings, Drakol, Piundon, Romulan (me but with all the ministers on).

I'll write some notes, every 30 turns... and if somebody have an special question about one race, only let me know.

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TURN 30.
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Romulan: War with Orks. T&R with Praetorians. They have started ok, attacking the Orks starting planets but only with frigates. After the turn 25, the Orks sent a counter-attack and damaged badly 2 Romulan starting planets. Anyway, ,they’re in the 7th position.

Praetorian: MA with Orks, Trade with Aquilaeian, T&R with Romulan. They colonize everywhere and everybody love them!

Orks: MA with Praetorian, Trade with Vaxin and Pyrochette, War with Romulan. Maybe because they did contact with the Romulan early in the game, but they have a very low colonization rate (excluding the starting planets, they colonized only 1 planet until the turn 30, and never lost a colony).

Vikings: Trade with Piundon. None with Drakol. War with Rage and Aquilaeian.
They have started in the center of the galaxy... and this was a problem, considering that have some aggresive neighbors.

Earth Alliance: War with Drakol. Trade with Rage. They have finished all the projects. Mephisto, honestly I believe that you sholud reconsider to have more than two research projects in the queue... Anyway, they’re doing a very good job with their fighters.

Vaxin: Trade alliance with the Orks (but they’re Angry!). None with Pyrochette (and they rejected a Vaxin’s treaty proposal). They have not many worlds availables to colonize, and then, believe that will have problems to grow.

Rage: as usual, this guys alway are looking for problems! They’re at war with the Piundon and with the Vikings. Trade Alliance with EA. Have all their planets protected with a lot of Weapon Platforms.

Aquilaeian: They’re at War with the Vikings, but they’re far away one of each other... then, I believe that will sign a peace treaty at some moment. Trade alliance with Praetorians.

Pyrochette: Trade Alliance with the Orks. None with Vaxin (but believe that the war will come soon...). They have started in the right bottom corner, and then, had not problems to colonize the nearest systems.

Drakol: War with EA. None with Vikings. Their colonization rate looks a bit slow (because they have several breathable planets into their systems without colonize), but also, they have tons and tons of satellites protecting their planets.

Piundon: Trade with Vikings. War with Rage. They are neighbors of the Rage, but they’re doing a good work. They could have problems to find more planets to colonize.

[Master Belisarius]

TURN 60.

Romulan: War with Orks. T&R with Pyrochette. Military alliance with Vaxin. Partnership with Praetorians. They have recovered their loses, and are doing a very good work. With a wise politic to keep only one war moving, they are in the 3rd position (well, I’m selecting the type of colony for them! ). I’m looking time in time the words: “All projects completed”

Praetorian: MA with Orks. Trade with Vaxin and Pyrochette. T&R with Vikings. Partnership with Aquilaeian and Romulan. The peace lovers are now in the first position, and colonizing all the galaxy!! The Romulan have Displeased feelings with them... but all the other race like them!

Orks: MA with Praetorian, T&R Vikings, Earh Alliance, and Drakol. Partnership with Vaxin and at War with Pyrochette and Romulan. They have colonized more worlds, but still have several colonies inside their systems, without colonize. They will have not problems with Pyrochette, because they’re far away, but they’re having problems fighting against the PPB Romulan’s ships.

Vikings: Trade with Romulan. T&R with Praetorian, Orks, Vaxin, Drakols. Military with Earth Alliance and Piundon. At war with War with Rage and Aquilaeian. This guys knows everybody except the Pyrochette! They’re not having prolems to keep the Rage and Aquilaeian out of their systems, but in the other hand, they did not damage to them. Anyway, is really hard try to destroy a Viking ship!

Earth Alliance: War with Drakol and Piundon. Trade with Rage and Vaxin. T&R with Orks and Military with Vikings. They have problems to destroy the very protected Drakol’s planets, but are expanding their empire quite well.

Vaxin: Trade alliance with Praetorian, EA. T&R with Vikings. Military with Romulan. Partnership with the Orks (and now they’re Warm). None with Pyrochette (but had battles against them and their mood is Murderous). War with Drakols. Still they have problems to expand.

Rage: War with the Piundon and with the Vikings. Trade Alliance with EA and Drakol. None with Aquilaeian (but they’re Murderous). They’re having problems to decide to send their fleets against the Vikings, or against the Piundon (but this’s hard coded!). Anyway, they lost some colonies with the Piundon, but have colonized some far planets.

Aquilaeian: Still they’re at War with the Vikings. None with Rage and Orks. Partnership with Praetorian. They had not neighbors, but have not good systems around their homeworlds... but thanks their long range colony ships, they have expanded fast.

Pyrochette: Trade Alliance with Praetorian. None with Vaxin (but have a virtual war). T&R with Romulan. They are sending some big fleets into the Orks systems.

Drakol: War with EA and Vaxin. Trade with Piundon and Rage. T&R with Orks and Vikings. They’re having problems to find available planets, but, also they have not colonized some good planets into their systems. Anyway, all their colonies have lots of satellites and fighters protecting them.

Piundon: Military with Vikings. War with Rage and EA. Trade with Drakol. They’re fighting quite well against the Rage, but looks that they’re not colonizing/exploring too much.

[Master Belisarius]

Turns 70 and 80... and I'm going to sleep!

[Rollo]

edit: DOH !, I posted in the wrong thread...

[This message has been edited by Rollo (edited 10 November 2001).]

[Rollo]

Good work MB ,
thanks for including the Vikings as well .
I really like the comments you make about the races, not just posting statistics like me . I will try to do that in my new test game as well, but I am a lazy writer...

Rollo

[Tampa_Gamer]

MB - I am concerned about the lack of colonization by the Dra'kol and Piundon. Please send the latest save game to ctraber@ngn-tampa.com.

Thanks
-TG

[Master Belisarius]

Hey Rollo, you inspired my work!

Tampa: I have the Last savegame (turn 90), and both have colonized their avalaible planets, and then, will not help you...
Maybe their are lack of Colony ships in some computer state?
Anyway, they did contact early in the game, and maybe this was the reason.

TURN 90.

Romulan: War with Orks, Vikings and Vaxin. T&R with Aquilaeian. Partnership with Praetorians and Pyrochette. With the Pyrochette’s help, they have destroyed 2 Orks starting planets (in a very cool battle, two big Romulan and Pyrochette fleets, destroyed a well defended Ork planet). Seems to be that they doesn’t consider the Orks a problem anymore , and then, have declared the war against the Viking and against the Vaxin. They’re in the 3rd position.

Praetorian: MA with Orks, EA and Vaxin. Trade with Pyrochette. T&R with Vikings. Partnership with Aquilaeian and Romulan. None with Rage. WAR with Drakols. They’re around all the galaxy, and colonizing very well. But some of their allies are starting to feel a bad mood... Orks, Rage, Aquilaeian, Pyrochette and Romulan, are Murderous to them... I think that because the others races are bussy fighting between them, nobody still will break with the Praetorian
Usually I liked their ship designs, but now I saw an attack Cruiser with two PPB, 2 Shields, 5 PDC, 3 Armor, Sensor, ECM, Mult.Track, Self-Destruct and Stellar Collector. In my opinion, only two PPB is not enough for a Cruiser.

Orks: MA with Praetorian, Vikings, Drakol. Partnership with Vaxin and at War with Pyrochette and Romulan.
They lost 2 of their starting planets (were 3), and think that will be unable to survive the Romulan/Pyrochette attacks. Although I understand the RPG reasons for their ship designs (I had a chat with Atraikius some time ago), I believe that their attack ships have not enough protection: only 2 Armor III inside a Battle Cruiser looks weak. The fighters have saved more than one of their battles, but are not enough to stop a big fleet of Romulan ships with PPB or a big fleet of Pyrochette ships.

Vikings: T&R with Praetorian. Military with Orks, EA, Pyrochette, Drakols, Piundon. Partnership with Partnership. At war with War with Rage, Aquilaeian and now with Romulan. Considering that they’re in middle of everyting (and everybody knows that all the AIs have problems when they’re under attack from several sides), they’re doing a good work.

Earth Alliance: War with Drakol and Piundon. Trade with Rage. Military with Orks, Praetorian and Vikings. Partnership with Vaxin. None with Pyrochette.
I like their ship designs. Their are not losing the wars, but not winning. Something interesting: they have 4 fleets with a few ships each one, but two of their biggest fleets (5 and 3 ships), are fleets with defensive ships.

Vaxin: Military alliance with Praetorian. Partnership with Orks, EA and Vikings.. War with Drakols and Romulan. None with Pyrochette... but they have a not declared war!
I like their ships designs. They have found two empty systems with good planets for them.

Rage: War with the Piundon and with the Vikings. Trade Alliance with EA and Romulan. T&R with Drakol. None with Praetorian and Aquilaeian (but they have a virtual war state with Aquilaeian).
They have lost a Homeworld with the Piundon... but are expanding to the north.
Aquilaeian: War with the Vikings. None with Rage and Pyrochette. Trade with Orks adn Drakol. T&R with Romulan. Partnership with Praetorian. Because they’re far of the Vikings (and Rage), they had not big battles against them: only skirmishes. They lost a colony after that a trinary system colapsed!

Pyrochette: Trade Alliance with Praetorian. Partnership with Romulan. Military with Vikings. None with EA, Vaxin and Aquilaeian. War against the Orks. They’re going well against the Orks.

Drakol: War with EA, Vaxin and Praetorian. Trade with Aquilaeian. T&R with Rage. Military with Orks, Vikings y Piundon.
They have colonized the planets into their systems. Maybe the problem was the “state” that had the AI. They’re the only that decided to fight against the Praetorian plague! and killed one of their colonies.
Have not many ships, but many many satellites! (good defense in the early-mid game!).
They got Intel, but because have not available planets, only got 2.5 K like other races.

Piundon: Military with Vikings and Drakol. War with Rage and EA. They’re fighting quite well against the Rage. Have colonized a new system, after destroy the Rage’s planets, and started to colonize to the north. I have the same feeling that with the Drakols: maybe they’re lack of colonies in some of the state queues.
I really like their ship designs, and should be cool, if they became at war against the Aquilaeian.

[Master Belisarius]

Some more pictures!

[Master Belisarius]

Turn 120

Romulan: War with Orks, Vikings and Vaxin. T&R with Rage. Partnership with Praetorians, Aquilaeian and Pyrochette. None with Piundon.
They’re 4th now, and maybe have a little slow colonization rate (they have lots of available planets into their systems).
The attack ships in my view, have not enough firepower: 2 Null-Space Projector into their attack Battle Cruisers.
They have Ice and Gas Colonization.

Praetorian: MA with Orks, EA and Vikings. Vaxin. Trade with Pyrochette. Vikings. Partnership with Aquilaeian, Romulan and Vaxin. None with Rage and Piundon. WAR with Drakols.
Not big changes. Most of their allies (except EA and Vaxin), hate them. They have lost several colonies into Drakol territory. The interesting thing, is that although they have 122 ships, they have only 4 fleets with 8, 2, 5 and 4 ships! Also, they’re not using their ships against the Drakol (I think that this part is hardcoded).
They have Rock, Ice and Gas Colonization.

Orks: MA with Praetorian, Drakol, and EA. T&R with Vikings, Trade with Aquilaeian Partnership with Vaxin. At War with Pyrochette and Romulan.
They lost all of their starting planets, and keep 7 planets into one system... Still they’re alive because the hardcoded AI behaviour of their enemies let them to live!
They have Rock Colonization.

Vikings: Military with Praetorian, EA and Piundon. T&R with Orks. Trade with Drkakols. War with Rage, Aquilaeian and Romulan.
They have killed one Rage’s starting planet, and colonized some new systems. Not battles against Aquilaeian and Romulan.
They have Ice Colonization.

Earth Alliance: War with Pyrochette, Drakol and Piundon. Military with Orks, Praetorian and Vikings. Partnership with Vaxin. None with Aquilaeian.
They have Rock and Ice colonization, and Gas Colonization is in the queue.
Now their fleets have only attack ships. Their wars agains Drakols have not big changes.

Vaxin: Partnership with Praetorian. Orks, EA and Vikings. War with Drakols and Romulan. None with Pyrochette.
Not big changes.
They have only Gas Colonization.

Rage: War with the Piundon and with the Vikings. Trade Alliance with EA. T&R with Drakol and Romulan. None with Praetorian, Aquilaeian, Orks.
They only have one Homeworld and believe that will have problems to survive.
Only Rock Colonization.

Aquilaeian: War with the Vikings. None with Rage, Piundon, EA and Pyrochette. Trade with Orks. Partnership with Praetorian, Romulan and Drakol.
Not big changes. Although they have lots of ships and well sized fleet, they never sent them to kill Vikins or Rage planets...
They have Rocks and Gas Colonization.

Pyrochette: Trade Alliance with Praetorian. Partnership with Romulan. None with Vikings, Vaxin and Aquilaeian. War against the Orks and EA.
They are expanding well, and killed the Last Ork’s starting planet.
They have Rock and Gas Colonization.

Drakol: War with EA, Vaxin and Praetorian. Trade with Aquilaeian, Vikings. T&R with Rage. Military with Orks and Piundon. Partnership with Aquilaeian.
An EA fleet started an invasion into one of their homeworld’s systems, but they have good defenses over their planets, but not many ships.
Have lots mines into their planets, but they have not Mine Layers (ok, maybe their enemies have killed their Mine Layers!)
They have Gas and Rock Colonization.

Piundon: Military with Vikings and Drakol. War with Rage and EA. None with Praetorian, Aquilaeian and Romulan.
Very strong in 4 systems, but have problems to find more suitable planets. Lots of mines layed over the warp points.
Very cool attack ships.
They have only Rock Colonization.

[Master Belisarius]

Here are the pictures for the turns 130 and 140.
Because I will be unable to continue the test during the week, I'll finish it, and I'm posting the save game here, because maybe somebody want to continue or want to take a look.

[This message has been edited by Master Belisarius (edited 12 November 2001).]