Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?

[Hullu]

I don't know why people even bother to say they're not overpowered.

[Beorne]

Hullu said:
I don't know why people even bother to say they're not overpowered.

Perfectly agreed, van it is so clearly overpowered that I think people doen't want it nerfed because they like win easily with them. I like very much Van thematically, but I don't take it in my mp games because I feel it cheating.

The "north world" nations are so clearly better than the "south world" nations, maybe the home countries of the devs influencies ...

[Jack_Trowell]

With early C'tis, you could try using chariots with an order to attack cavalry, trampling vans should be a good way tu hurt them, no ?

Even if you loose, it should cost them more than you. (at least I hope)

[Folket]

C'tis also have poison slingers with area effect and 50% poison resistance on thier national troops. Could be worth investigating.

[Hullu]

To add my previous comment.

If they're not overpowered, why do people need to find specific strategies with which you can perhaps if you're lucky be able to deal with them?

I don't remember that anyone needs a specific super-strategy against any other unit, since pretty much everything else has simple counters - due to the fact that pretty much everything else is more or less balanced.

[Dedas]

Well, there may be an easy but not so obvious counter to them.

[Aseth]

Hullu said:
To add my previous comment.

If they're not overpowered, why do people need to find specific strategies with which you can perhaps if you're lucky be able to deal with them?

I don't remember that anyone needs a specific super-strategy against any other unit, since pretty much everything else has simple counters - due to the fact that pretty much everything else is more or less balanced.

hmm... u don`t know what are u talking about,
1)it IS some nations that have better rush tactics that van`s
2)u need a specific super-strategy against ANY other nation, if that nation run with exp. player
3)it IS ways to counter Van,yes u can`t stop raiding,but u can raid Van in same time as he raid u, and u can beat his army with your army, aspesially in Dom3 with it money flood...

[Hullu]

I still don't see the board littered about "how can I fight against MA-Arco using tactic XY.

Why not? Because it's not a problem. Half the world see Vans are a problem though.

[Dedas]

Ever thought that maybe the counter is not so obvious as with other nations?
Also, even if something is hard to find, that doesn't automatically mean that when you've found it it will be hard to use.

[Hullu]

If a counter for something is harder to find than it is for all other stuff. It means on the average this one thing is more powerful.