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December 25th, 2001, 05:11 PM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
It's ok Mark, no Sid did not kill my dog, but he drove me to kill my cat. J/K
After playing the game for a month, and finding new and disappointing things about it each and every time I played, I began to grow frustrated with it.
The topper was that stupid face the Military adviser makes whenever one of your cities falls.
In my case, I had betten the Brits back to 12 cities, and out of now where came massive amounts of british spear chuckers and despite my city defenses, (Tanks - Riflemen) they took the cities with no losses. That realy angered me, but when they would took 15 or so of my cities in one turn, I lost it. The game came out of the cd tray, and went strait into the "Give To Good Will" draw. I uninstalled the game, and went down and bought Empire Earth. (EE is a nice game so far.)
Even with the Civ3 editor, patched, the game still was not right. I loved the AI, and the diplomacy of the game, and would consider them to be top notch if not for the games lack of user control and customizability. Hell, Aaron is only one guy, and his game has nearly everything one could want, so why couldn't the hardend team at Civ3 produce a game to rock all games?
Civ3 was a major dissapointment to me, and I felt that it was something that people should know before they bought it. From the Posts in this thread, those who have the game, it would appear that I was not alone in my frustration with this game.
If you like, then I am very happy for you. Please accept that I was not happy with it, and chose to voice my opinion as such.
And welcome to the board. 
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December 25th, 2001, 09:38 PM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
Atrocities: I hate to tell you, but the Empire Earth AI cheats too. Flagrently. (heck, the scenerio editor has a box on the AI settings tha says "AI cheats?" so you can say yes/no)
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December 25th, 2001, 10:23 PM
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Yes I know,  , But I have a compensator.  If needed, CHEAT CODES. 
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December 26th, 2001, 04:17 AM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
I think I am the only person who has not played any of the civ games.
When I first saw the game I thought. Gee no space, no armies, no play. And I have stuck to my guns. I have tried civ and civ type games,,,, I can't stand them, Don't know why. Just never liked them. And since I am over 30 I will not change my ways 
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December 26th, 2001, 04:23 AM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
I know this is off topic for the off topic do not buy civ 3
but the other day I reinstalled BOTF.
50 turns later the game was removed.
That game sucked.
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December 26th, 2001, 05:09 AM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
BOTF is a game that you have to spend time to learn. The AI sucked, and some of the other features did too. Over all, when I first bought it, it angered me greatly, but after a few weeks, the game grew on me.
Now, I view BOTF as one of those games that should have been supported, but was not, and that is our loss, and is why micrprose no longer holds any Star Trek licences.
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December 26th, 2001, 08:43 AM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
yep.. more of the same. in CIV 1, little settlers, or colonists, or whatever the heck they were would repeatedly destroy my battleships. the CIV games have always been in the bad habit of taken a defeated AI and somehow screwing with their unit statistics to make their outdated pissy units both numerous and undefeatable. its really frustrating, i have given up on CIV. amazingly, SMAC did not cheat that way and was a fairly solid game.. dispite the fact that the game play was exactly the same as CIV and it was just more of the same (with a unit editor, if you want to call it that).
and as Mark P said: what the heck is STC?
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December 26th, 2001, 03:19 PM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
Sorry for the editing I was just playing with it for a while, YEEeee HAA!!!
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December 26th, 2001, 06:25 PM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
sort of like ghost writers huh. dont you hate it when a good author starts handing his story ideas over to other people. its like saying "im so good that i dont even have to try anymore"
just like any self righteous bum that puts their name on video games. "sid myers this" and "peter molyniehooayuxez that" (however the hell you spell his name). the only thing that i can think of that is possibly worse is arrogant bastards that pLaster their cheesy www handle onto the title of their SE4 games over on seiv.pbw.cc i mean, what over-inflated ego started that anyway?
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December 26th, 2001, 11:43 PM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
I have been playing CIV3 for the Last 4 weeks. It is a good game and except for the crashes it is fun. Firaxis has said they will support the game and if they do it will be a great game. What upsets me is all the hype and all the great Ratings. In its current state the game is not that great. I think all the great Ratings is based on reputation because it is a Sid game, even though he did not work on it very much if at all. It has a lot of potential but so did CTP and BOTF. The question is, will Firaxis support the game so it reaches that potential.
I saw the potential in CTP and user mods made it into a a very good game. (with little to no help from Activision). I saw the potential in BOTF but even with a lot of work from the user community, the hard coded limitations made the game totally frustrating and not fun and is no longer on my hard drive.
If Firaxis supports CIV3 with patches (definitely more then one will be needed) through the next year then I think CIV3 will be a great game. Currently it is a good game with lots of potential, but also lots of problems and IMO does not desire all the great Ratings and hype.
However, even though I was a CIV fan first, I would rate SEIV at least twice as good as CIV3. I gave SEIV gold as Christmas presents to my nephews by giving them an "I owe you 1 SEIV gold game" in their card. After showing them the current game, they can not wait.
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