OT: Windows is too expensive - Page 8

frightlever · #71 March 14th, 2007, 05:57 AM

If you're ever thinking of experimenting with Ubuntu again there are usually three versions on the go. I think the current 6.10 (Feisty Fawn?) is the latest stable version. There may be an unstable beta and there's the first time installers friend 6.06LTS - the ultra stable version. The LTS is for long term support, which is to say they'll support the OS repositories not that you have to buy a support package off them. I never had a problem with 6.06 but 6.10 eventually got kicked off my second machine.

parabolize · #72 March 14th, 2007, 07:34 AM

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Arralen said:
Lets hope Reactos and/or Linux are really usuable by then!

Thats a rather silly general statement isn't it? With all the computers between us (routers, modems, dns, shrapnel...) I'm guessing your computer is the only one running windows and at least one of them is running Linux.

I think what you're talking about is games. ReactOS, Wine and Cedega will always have trouble with newer Windows games. Not only is there a delay from waiting for the OS and game to be released before the work on compatibility can start but it takes longer to create that compatibility than the OS and game. A better solution is to make cross-platform software. Sadly cross-platform software is often avoided by developers because they see no immediate benefit because the small market. Users don't use alternative operating systems because their games won't run.

If the gaming communities only hope for another OS instead of contributing to one they will never have one.

parabolize · #73 March 14th, 2007, 07:38 AM

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AgentZero said:
Heh, by 2014 we'll have mobile phones that can run XP.

I'm not seeing the advantage to running XP over the faster, more specialized operating systems phones use now.

AgentZero · #74 March 14th, 2007, 05:07 PM

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parabolize said:
I'm not seeing the advantage to running XP over the faster, more specialized operating systems phones use now.

I never said there'd be any advantage, only that it'd be possible.

Phoenix-D · #75 March 14th, 2007, 07:03 PM

Games is one issue, but Linux is simply a pain in the ***. The UI works all right, but it doesn't cover most essential functions, leaving only the command prompt and manually editing control files. Not a good thing. I shouldn't have to do that for basic tasks like installing drivers on a fresh machine..

Renegade 13 · #76 March 14th, 2007, 07:04 PM

Personally, I don't understand what everyone's problem with XP is. I've never had any major difficulties with it that weren't my own fault for messing around with stuff I didn't understand at the time

No viruses, trojans, etc, no instability, nothing. Been a smooth ride for me ever since my first computer with Win 95 on it.

*(Now will probably have a rash of problems, after making the above statement!)*

parabolize · #77 March 14th, 2007, 07:24 PM

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Phoenix-D said:
Games is one issue, but Linux is simply a pain in the ***. The UI works all right, but it doesn't cover most essential functions, leaving only the command prompt and manually editing control files. Not a good thing. I shouldn't have to do that for basic tasks like installing drivers on a fresh machine..

Everything Geo did can be done from one GUI or another that is installed by default. The command line is a very useful tool in getting people to do exactly what you want because the commands can be copy/pasted.
You should also keep in mind windows often looks to the manufacturer for drivers. If Trendnet would have made a driver for Linux and not Windows anyone using Windows with that hardware would be out of luck.

geoschmo · #78 March 14th, 2007, 08:22 PM

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Renegade 13 said:
Personally, I don't understand what everyone's problem with XP is. I've never had any major difficulties with it that weren't my own fault for messing around with stuff I didn't understand at the time

XP has been quiet stable and decent for me as well. My only complaint is, as the thread title says, it's too expensive.

geoschmo · #79 March 14th, 2007, 08:26 PM

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parabolize said:
Everything Geo did can be done from one GUI or another that is installed by default.

To be completely honest though I tried doing it using the GUI tools and it didn't work. Whether that is Linux's fault or my own I can't say, but it certainly wasn't as plug-and-play easy as XP.

Of course XP wouldn't be that plug-and-play easy if the hardware manufacturer hadn't spent the time and money to write a basically self-installing driver and included it in a CD with the adapter. And Linux could be if they would do the same for it. It's not an advantage of the OS per se as much as it is the fact that the hardware mfg did all the work for me.

Phoenix-D · #80 March 15th, 2007, 02:25 AM

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Everything Geo did can be done from one GUI or another that is installed by default. The command line is a very useful tool in getting people to do exactly what you want because the commands can be copy/pasted.
You should also keep in mind windows often looks to the manufacturer for drivers. If Trendnet would have made a driver for Linux and not Windows anyone using Windows with that hardware would be out of luck.

Not talking about this specific case, just in general. Take the NVIDIA drivers, for example. Windows is download, double click. Linux is a hell of a lot more complicated.