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March 21st, 2007, 04:39 PM
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Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
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Dust to Dustslightly off topic but gorgon could use it too): In my test i used 5 mages with 3 in death magic path scripted casting "dust to dust" several times. Ghost king was scripted to cast mistform, astral image and other buffs. dust to dust did no damage at all and this after 10 castings directly on the ghost king. It might eventually hit the ghost king, but it did deal never damage, all it did was to kill mirror image. After that mistform protected ghost king against exactly 1 hit, dealing 1damage. So Mistform was gone too. And finally Ghost king was hit big time by dust to dust for full damage. This is what is saw in the combat screen. I did not run 10 battles like this, but the results speak for itself. Or can a unit be so lucky to survive 10 dust to dust from close range? The mages just stood in front of him and its area damage too. So please consider this. The ghosts that travels with the ghost king come in handy too. Gorgon seems very vulnerable to Life Drain. So with ghosts he can certainly kill her if she is not stuffed with the best items in the game.
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Let's review the basics here:
Dust to Dust deals physical NON-MAGICAL damage to undead creatures. Etherealness protects against non-magical damage, ergo Dust to Dust cast against a GK misses totally 75% of the time. So only 25% of DtD will hit at all and deal varying amounts of damage. Read the spell description, it says DtD causes damage against undead, but rarely affects ethereal undead creatures.
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March 21st, 2007, 04:55 PM
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Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
Dust to Dust, Description:
The Mage destroys undead beings by unraveling the magic that holds them together. The Spell affects all undead in a small area. Neither magic resistence nor armor offer any protection from this spell.
Thats all there to read. I wonder why you have a different Description?
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March 21st, 2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
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Read the spell description, it says DtD causes damage against undead, but rarely affects ethereal undead creatures.
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That sounds like the description for Maggots.
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March 21st, 2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
Hmm, I must have confused that with Wither Bones. My mistake. Hard to check since I don't have Dom3 at work. Sorry. Still, it could be that it deals non-magical damage, in which case ethereality would protect against it. I don't know.
EDIT: Or confused it with maggots. Which spell affected demons? Was it maggots or something else?
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March 21st, 2007, 05:07 PM
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Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
I thought Maggots was especially for undead. Dunno about Wither Bones.
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March 21st, 2007, 09:02 PM
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Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
AFAIK neither maggots nor wither bones nor dust to dust affect demons
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Oh, unless it's changed since Doms2 dust to dust almost certainly doesn't do physical damage. I remember well an AI caster zapping a square of 6 shade hounds with the spell and killing them all outright. That would be extremely unlikely to happen if there was only a 1/4 chance of each hound being affected.
Not sure why we're talking about dust-to-dust here though. The gorgon isn't undead is she?
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March 21st, 2007, 09:35 PM
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Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
No, but she could use that spell against undead pretenders that would be good to kill her.
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March 21st, 2007, 10:23 PM
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Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
Ok, in my current game where my friend resigned in late winter of year 7, I had a situation with marigon attacking me with a huge army. 471 castle bought troops and 18 commanders, many of which cast paralyze(an overpowered spell that needs a nerf). they were about to storm the giant's capitol that i had captured earlier.
Flew my gorgon there just in time. I had dom 8 in the square, and had both gift of health and haunted forest up.
The Gorgon had 144 hps, regenerated 29 hps a turn, 28 ac, 12 revig, 31 defense, 26 mr, 100 percent resistance to poison, fire, lightning, 50 percent resist to cold.
ember, barrier shield, lightning helm, silver hauberk, boots antaues, krupps bracer, ring regeneration, scripted,summon earthpower, mistform, mirror image, fire shield, and iron will, attack closest.
Of course right off the bat i get paralyzed. But my regen unbuffed was still 27 a turn, and despite my defense being zero, the gorgon was never hurt badly, she petrified all of the calvary that got to her, crossbow bolts fell harmlessly around her. She won the fight against 471 troops 18 commanders with ease, despite being paralyzed.
of course a few bane lords with wraith swords, and she would have died. But this is a perfect example of how a flying gorgon can pick her fights, and beat down a huge army late in the game that is not tailor made to kill her.
most scs, being paralyzed, would have died. But against mr 10 armies, the gorgon killed them before they could hurt her.
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March 21st, 2007, 10:57 PM
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Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
your opponent was stupid for not preparing for the possiblity of a gorgon, if he knew you had one.
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March 21st, 2007, 11:19 PM
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Re: Could u stop Gorgon?
he is not a die hard Dom III player. He has played many times, but he plays wow more than any other game.
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