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				 Esoteric Roman v. Greek Ranting (was Philosophers) 
 Has anyone else noticed that Philosophers are not effected by Drain scale?  I was playing around with some game settings and just happened to pick EA Arco.  Recruited some philosophers and noticed that they had a full 5rp even in the drain-3 dominion of my cap.  Moved one out to a province where I had 0-drain and he still had 5rp. |  
	
		
	
	
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				August 13th, 2007, 04:51 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Philosophers + Drain 
 They are affected by drain. You must of had sloth in the province which gives bonus that was off setting your drain. |  
	
		
	
	
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				August 13th, 2007, 05:10 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Philosophers + Drain 
 Uhhh... what?  Sloth has no effect on magic scale.  Unless there is some wierd bug I have never heard of.
 I'm quite certain that Philosophers were immune to Drain.  All my other mages had 1-3rps because they were losing it all to drain.  But my Philosophers had their regular 5rp.  I have a feeling it has to do with the fact that Philosophers have RP but no magic paths.  Perhaps you must have a magic path in order for Drain to effect you?
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				August 13th, 2007, 05:19 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Philosophers + Drain 
 Yeah Philosophers get the sloth bonus added to their RP. So if you take sloth 3 and magic 3, they have a RP of 10. Not bad for 50 gold. |  
	
		
	
	
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				August 13th, 2007, 05:20 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Philosophers + Drain 
 Philosophers get one additional RP per sloth scale. For example, magic-3 sloth-2 philosophers have whopping 9 RPs. Which is a lot for 50 gp unit. Don't know what (if anything) you could pull off with them, but there's gotta be something weird.
 Edit: Ninja'ed by awesomeness. Could be worse.
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				 Re: Philosophers + Drain 
 It is a peculiarity of Philosophers that they get a research bonus in a sloth dominion. 
 I guess if they don't have to work, they've got more time to loll around on couches eating grapes and having insights into the nature of the universe.
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				August 13th, 2007, 05:21 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Philosophers + Drain 
 Read the nation description for EA Arco.  I think they have a unit that gets a bonus from sloth and ignores the effects of drain scale. |  
	
		
	
	
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				August 13th, 2007, 06:03 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Philosophers + Drain 
 
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		| thejeff said: It is a peculiarity of Philosophers that they get a research bonus in a sloth dominion.
 
 I guess if they don't have to work, they've got more time to loll around on couches eating grapes and having insights into the nature of the universe.
 
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				 Re: Philosophers + Drain 
 Of course not, Blade Wind is merely a mildly interesting side effect of a more fundamental aspect of the nature of Earth that happened to get mentioned to a more practical Mystic.Hardly worth wasting your time thinking about. You'll progress much faster if you stop being distracted by all these flashy effects.
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				 Re: Philosophers + Drain 
 Well well!  Learn something new every day.  I'm surprised that my philosopher still had 5rp when I moved him out into other provinces, but of course I wasnt even bothered to look at sloth scales.  Wierd! |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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