Disturbing Facts - Page 2

Tim Brooks · #11 March 18th, 2002, 02:48 AM

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How many pirated Version of SEIV Gold are now in circulation?

It's hard to track this. We believe that SEIV Original was pirated at 20 to 1. That is based on numbers we could track and then figuring we were only finding a small percentage.

It really hurts. Just think of what Malfador and Shrapnel would be able to bring to you, if we had just 20% of those pirated in sales.

Atrocities · #12 March 18th, 2002, 02:52 AM

Right now one of the best anti-pirate software equiped games out is Tribes 2. To date, Sierra has prevented nearly a million attempted thefts of Tribes 2. To my knowledge, it is nearly next to impossible to break their anti-theft system as it works off of a CD specific code that must registar with the master server in order to play. If the key is duplicated, then the second on attemp will forfit the key, and the person who owns the disk originally will have to contact Sierra to get a new key. Thats when they bust em.

Keys can not be "randomly" generated because no un-registared key will be accepted into the system. So in order to play the game, you have to registar it. If you make copies, you can use them, so long as you do not attempt to use more than one at a time.

Nice set up if you ask me.

ZeroAdunn · #13 March 18th, 2002, 07:19 AM

Yes, but it wouldn't work for games that can be played offline, because many people will buy them to play offline.

Cylapse · #14 March 21st, 2002, 09:02 PM

*laughs* Pirating IS pirating, but I cant say that I am 100% against it. In my youth I didnt have **** for money, and honestly my parents wouldnt have given two ****s to assist in the situation.. (this was some, like 5-6 years ago, I was like 15) So I had to make due, learning about coding in C/C++, html, java, and eventually reversing that process to learn about the underground **** that you all despise today *LOL* I dont blame you though. Especially now that Im a grown man who handles his own ****.

Damn straight I paid for SE4... but honestly, I cant say I paid for SE3 back then, it was given to me on a shiney CD-R some years back. Not that I could have paid for it if I had wanted to anyway.

But on the brighter side, that act of piracy allowed me to taste a game that would lay a devastating parasite within my mind *lol* And its because of that that I even bothered to look at SE4 when it was coming around... Seeings how I am not some 15 year old punk anymore, and I can hold my own job and apt, I outgrew the whole stealing software thing, and have a totally legit copy of SE4 Gold... It would be nice to turn the tables around and make due somehow by BUYING an old copy of SE3 (Havent played that in sooo long - lost the cd as well), but that seems a moot point now.

I suppose the moral is this - Stealing is stealing, and YES its wrong, but I wouldnt condemn that dude. I aint no damned Robin Hood myself but I'll tell you this - Had I never gotten ahold of that copy of SE3 a few years ago, I would have never even HEARD about the Demo to part 4, and never had downloaded it (in its 28 mb glory), and Never, ever have purchased it.... So think what you will, but I havta thank the darker past for the brighter future, so to speak

SE4 is fabulous, and it just feels better knowing you can play without fear of being charged with theft *LMAO*

PS - (well, I cant say Im against it if ya steal from Microsoft *LMAO* - **** those fags)

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By the way... I am not advocating piracy or defending it, justifying it or anything of that nature... I am merely offering my viewpoint some years ago and recounting the series of events that lead to my own sense of redemption *lol*
Rest assured I would never even post this crap unless I had felt that I somehow leveled the scales a bit by purchasing SEIVG...I mean it is moderated by Shrapnel and MM *LOL* Just to clarify that I am not some Butt-Pirate supporter *LMAO*
But hey - **** happens. Ya do stupid ****. I'm just glad I never let it get outta hand, especially now that Im older.

[ 21 March 2002: Message edited by: Cynapse ]

Gryphin · #15 March 21st, 2002, 10:10 PM

Hmm, Cynapse,
Since you mention you wish you could "It would be nice to turn the tables around and make due somehow by BUYING an old copy of SE3 ", what about buying a second copy of SE IV Gold and breaking it?
Note: I am human and shall not cast the first stone.

Cylapse · #16 March 21st, 2002, 10:15 PM

*LOL* I like that... sadly after spending $50 the first time, to simply shatter it wouldn't feel right...I'd rather send it back than simply destroy it *l* MM doesnt sell SE3 as it is anymore?
There were a few things I found that I liked better about it, and it would be nice to get that retro feel again...

I dont suppose anyone would sell their original SE3? *LOL* Guess that's pretty far fetched.

Cylapse · #17 March 21st, 2002, 10:16 PM

*LOL* I like that... sadly after spending $50 the first time, to simply shatter it wouldn't feel right...I'd rather send it back than simply destroy it *l* MM doesnt sell SE3 as it is anymore?
There were a few things I found that I liked better about it, and it would be nice to get that retro feel again...

I dont suppose anyone would sell their original SE3? *LOL* Guess that's pretty far fetched.

Hate to trash my own rep on this forum - But I had to be honest in my posting.

Gryphin · #18 March 21st, 2002, 11:00 PM

Foks, correct me if I'm wrong, I seem to recall that SE III was downloaded and you purchased an "unlocking" code. I can't find an SE III CD anywhere.

Cynapse, I'm sure MM would take you up on that offer.
BTW: I am not without sin, but I do own a licenced copy of WinZip and a few other shareware programs.

Cylapse · #19 March 21st, 2002, 11:12 PM

That explains a few things then, I was wondering why I couldnt find it on Shrapnel or anywhere for sale Online. Coz after playing the demo of SE4 for the first time in August of 2001 (before gold came out and when the DL was only 18mb) I honestly was thinking about saying screw part 4 and I tried finding SE3... but eventually I realized that 4 was indeed better, and I was just being a picky lil **** about it *LOL*

If MM still has it on their site and they are willing to sell a copy - Hey, I feel guilty *LOL* No ****en ****, and would buy a copy of SE3 in a heartbeat. Then, if its all good with Aaron, I'd pay, take the cripped Version of SE3 and just assume never ever receive the unlock code... Its only fair, ya know?

rdouglass · #20 March 21st, 2002, 11:15 PM

Yeah, that's how I got mine (SEIII), thru download and unlocking code. However, ISTR hearing of a CD that had SEIII, SEII, (and maybe SEI) - although I'm not positive...