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		| Tuidjy said: ARGGH!  Ok, whoever wished my Orb of Atlantis away, and drowned my Jarl(DD).
 
 |  Hmm, who is the premium astral nation and interested in defending its borders? I assume it was a rhetorical question, anyway.    
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				 Re: Lets get this ball rolling. 
 Corwin will be taking over (permanently) Fomoria, as i'm going on vacation. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Fomoria\'s new ruler 
 Greetings. 
I thought I should post here and introduce myself. I am Corwin, new heir to Fomoria throne.
 
It looks like I have very big shoes to fill. I will try not to make too much of a mess out of Fomoria nation. I am glad that you are on the long host guys, should make things somewhat easier to manage.
 
Needless to say I will honor all Fomoria's current pacts and agreements. If any of you guys have any diplomacy, trade or other proposals please send me PMs. Also if anybody feels that there is something about the current situation in the game that I should know, please tell me in PM, I will certainly appreciate any additional info. 
 
Finally since I have never played Fomoria before and since I have huge end-game Empire to become familiar with (and which is currently in peace as far as I can tell), it would be nice if I could get a turn or two of invasion-free time so I could get my stuff together.    (this is just a request, you can do whatever you like of course) |  
	
		
	
	
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  FWIW, I did not wish for the orb of atlantis. If I were going to wish for an artifact, I'd wish for something good  
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				 Re: Fomoria\'s new ruler 
 I just read this thread from beginning to end, and here is the impression I amleft with:
 
 Mists of Deception + Battlefield Enchantment + Retreat is NOT allowed.  Battlefield
 Enchantment + Retreat is allowed, but ONLY if you retreat on the sixth turn.
 
 Did I get it right?
 
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 Mists of Deception + Battlefield Enchantment + Retreat on the sixth turn should be allowed, as there is no way to check if the AI retreated the mage or the mage was scripted to retreat. |  
	
		
	
	
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		| Tuidjy said: Battlefield Enchantment + Retreat is allowed, but ONLY if you retreat on the sixth turn.
 
 |  I'd say that this conforms with MP etiquette.
 
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				 Re: Fomoria\'s new ruler 
 There are only a few of us, and I don't think anyone is at war, so should be easy to come to a consensus. I'll start the ball rolling. Please vote for one of the following.
 1. Ban Mists of Deception altogether. No scripting of this spell or use of any artifact that casts this.
 
 2. Ban MoD + any Battlefied Enchantment in combination (MoD can not be used with any kind of BE, whether scripted or from artifact effects or from creature effects).
 
 3. Ban only MoD + any BE + scripted retreat within 5 turns (retreat allowed on 6th turn).
 
 4. No restrictions on MoD.
 
 My vote is for any of the 4 choices, I can work with whatever rule you guys wish to put in place.
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 The problem is that after two days of testing focused on this, I still have found no way to effectively counter this spell.  Once it's cast, either the
 caster will be killed or the enemy will rout - the BE only adds casualties
 to the loss of the battle.  It's as simple as that.
 
 If this was the beginning of the game, I'd say ban it altogether.  But now
 it may appear that we would be unfairly hurting the two air nations left:
 Fomoria and Tir-Na-Nog.  But I also think that everyone else can easily
 cast it.  After all, I have about 10 air domes up.  Do the math.
 
 Anyway - my vote is to ban MoD as broadly as possible.
 
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