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 Okay, wait, now I am confused.  Apparently my pure Abysians with darkvision 50 were indeed taking a penalty--it's just that they don't display it the same way as the humanbred with darkvision 0.  When I click a humanbred's Attack Skill value, I see:
 Basic Attack Skill: 10
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 Basic Attack Skill: 10
 Current Attack Skill: 7
 
 So there's a penalty of 3 points that's applied but not listed, and that's what had been throwing me off.  I guess this is still a bug in the listing, but that's not nearly as important as a bug in the calculation would be.
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				June 3rd, 2008, 05:59 AM
			
			
			
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 You should check around and write anything strange to Edi. Utterdark is not common thing to see so if there are bugs in description etc it is quite possible no one noticed them. I will have to look at my units with dark power too    
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				June 3rd, 2008, 11:06 AM
			
			
			
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 Chirp chirp ...who turned out the lights?- Eriu
 
				__________________i crossed blades with the mightiest warriors of the golden age.  i witnessed with sorrow the schism that led to the passing of legends. now my sword hangs in its scabbard, with nothing but memories to keep it warm.
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				June 4th, 2008, 10:59 AM
			
			
			
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				June 4th, 2008, 11:10 AM
			
			
			
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 Actually order was carried out by immortal guy with somewhat german name... |  
	
		
	
	
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				June 4th, 2008, 11:46 AM
			
			
			
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 Ok, I think we can declare the game finished (sorry for not following this thread). If there's no objections before the next hosting, I'll finish the game then. Winners are Mictlan and R'lyeh (I don't think that anyone is able to beat Mictlan). |  
	
		
	
	
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 Oh, so I should do something crazy on my current turn?  Or wouldn't I get to see the results?  I'd like to see the results.    |  
	
		
	
	
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				June 4th, 2008, 02:35 PM
			
			
			
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 I can teleport smth over your army if you have smth big   |  
	
		
	
	
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 Well the only thing is, I've got the biggest army I've had in this whole game right outside the victory point province, and my side is one point away from winning, and the next point is about to be distributed.  So although it's unlikely that I will win whatever battle is about to occur, it's frustrating that the game would end right now. 
...On the other hand, if this weren't a king-of-the-hill game, Mictlan would obviously be unstoppable.  So I think the long-term solution to this problem is to refrain from playing king-of-the-hill games in the future.  And do something crazy now, I guess.    |  
	
		
	
	
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 I wasn't able to use Master Enslave even once    I also had no chance to teleport like 50 mages into one location. But nah, I would need 2 turns for that. 1 turn to get Golems back to teleporting locations with Returning. After that I can use mass cloud trapeze/teleport/astral travel to move my golems + air queens + couatls + 20 iron dragons + a bunch of juggernauts + 500-1000 jaguar warriors/eagle warriors. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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