VOTD-Still like it - Page 8

chrispedersen · #71 August 1st, 2008, 07:54 PM

Hmmm I would think a quickened hastened charcoal shielded regenerating trampler would do much more.

Strider · #72 August 1st, 2008, 08:22 PM

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Kuritza · #73 August 2nd, 2008, 02:01 AM

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chrispedersen said:
Hmmm I would think a quickened hastened charcoal shielded regenerating trampler would do much more.

This trampler has to be undead or elemental royalty with base encumberance 0. Undead are immune to VotD.

MaxWilson · #74 August 2nd, 2008, 03:00 AM

You don't actually have to be enc 0. It's possible to kit out a Size 5 Adonim, for instance, so that he can trample 3 or 4 squares worth of size 2 troops per turn without ever going above fatigue 14.

-Max

chrispedersen · #75 August 2nd, 2008, 03:35 AM

You're missing the point K. VOTD the above mentioned or similar. I believe he could take out 600 or more undead in 50 turns.

Roughly (50x18) = 900 squares of movement. = 600 squares of units. Plus the charcoal square will kill a good bit.
Sure, you lose a turn for hastened...

Equip or cast items that generate battle field effects. wrathful skies... You could do a lot more.

MaxWilson · #76 August 2nd, 2008, 01:34 PM

Where does 50x18 come from? Size 5 trampling Size 2 is 3/4 squares of trampling per turn, regardless of base AP.

-Max

sum1lost · #77 August 2nd, 2008, 07:57 PM

Undead Mastery would work pretty well, I think.

chrispedersen · #78 August 2nd, 2008, 10:59 PM

Interesting. Where do you get that?

I presumed quickened and hasted, and properly booted that the SC would have 36 move or so, translating into a maximum of 18 squares per turn of trampling.
Each square could have numerous size 2 opponents - that is true. However, I also ignore the fact that the defender could succed at avoiding being trampled. The 50 just refers to the # of turns.

And yes, of course I agree undead master would work - however, it is late in the game.

JimMorrison · #79 August 3rd, 2008, 12:16 AM

I'm not sure how the movement is calculated Chris, but a 36 move critter will not trample 18 squares a turn, that would be..... insanely overpowered in most situations.

Also, that much trampling is enormously exhausting. It's not frolicking in a field, it's smashing bodies with your feet - even harder than squashing grapes, and ask anyone, it's hard work making wine.

vfb · #80 August 3rd, 2008, 01:32 AM

I don't like the doubling-up of dead on multiple casts, since it's supposedly already the eternal souls of the victims who attack. Other than that I think it's a great spell.

For your pretender (or any commander really), will Ritual of Returning (or Virtue) or Twiceborn work? I'm worried that death-by-turn-limit won't trigger these effects.

Non-pretenders killed by VotD should be in the HoF, right? Ritual of rebirth is pretty nice, mummies are tough dudes. And mummies are immune to VotD.