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Old August 18th, 2008, 10:07 AM
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Confused Not so thematic methinks

Correct me if I'm wrong, but should the Deva be available as a pretender for Yomi?
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Why not ? Is it its Hindu flavour that bothers you, or the fact that it's a demon slayer ?
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Default Re: Not so thematic methinks

Perfectly sensible for a race of bully, headstrong demons to worship a Goddess dedicated to their slaughter. Not all worship is based upon good and love. I would guess fear and self preservation would be a great motivator for the Oni.
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Perfectly sensible for a race of bully, headstrong demons to worship a Goddess dedicated to their slaughter. Not all worship is based upon good and love. I would guess fear and self preservation would be a great motivator for the Oni.

I think he's more wondering about the Deva - why lead these uncouth, disgusting demons in conquest, when they're your ultimate enemy?
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A prey is not an ennemy. And she will slaughter them in love
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Default Re: Not so thematic methinks

They are merely a tool used for assention.. after that they can be dealt with properly.
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Default Re: Not so thematic methinks

"demon" is just a PR/POV label. the other side's gods and spirits are demons
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Default Re: Not so thematic methinks

It's good and well to label something as "label". :P But in this game's context it's a term with perfectly clear sense: something that's unholy by its nature, but isn't undead.
A part about demons worshipping a demon-slayer goddes is already answered. About Hindu origins of the goddess herself - I don't remember clearly about any Kali-like figures, but a lot of Japanese and Chinese mythos gods and spirits are of Hindu origins. And many-armed warrior spirits are certainly depicted in Shinto temples often enough.
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but a lot of Japanese and Chinese mythos gods and spirits are of Hindu origins
Out of curiosity, do you have a source for this? As far as I know, very little is known of 'pure' Shinto belief due to the Japanese penchant for syncretism combined with the fact that written language was introduced to Japan hand-in-hand with Buddhism around 500 AD.

Further, Shinto zinzya is normally translated into English as 'shrine' and not 'temple'. Even moreso, every depiction of multiarmed 'spirits' that I can think of offhand in Japanese religious settings is actually Buddhist, not Shinto.

Since my information seems to be quite different than yours, I would be grateful if you could provide sources for your statements so that I can check to see if my understanding is correct. My own source is the Japanese curriculum in the Department of East Asian Languages and Literature at Ohio State University.
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I still think it's kinda weird that the Deva can be chosen by Yomi. Especially since those demons are tough enough to take the Deva down. Oh well, I guess that people(and other creatures) worshipped anything during EA.
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