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Old September 13th, 2008, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Sovarinthy - an EA game for somewhat busy people (recruiting)

Well as far as I understand some of the earlier versions had more extensive changes.

Specifically the magic scale used to be +/- 1 per point so +3 for Magic 3. And some of the items and spells were made more difficult to get/cast e.g. Dwarven Hammers and I think some of the Gem generators.

These 'radical' changes were largely removed for 1.3 leaving the mod as mostly tweaks. But nearly all IMHO for the better.

Basically it makes scales you rarely pick (Luck, Production etc.) better. The Pretenders not usually picked (none Cyclops Titan types, Rainbows, many of the unloved 'nationals' etc.) better and so more viable. The battlefield spells you never caste because they are too expensive or inaccurate better. The Summons nobody uses (Drakes, Wyverns etc.) cheaper or for Leader types etc. Many of the magic items that are rarely used are made cheaper or forgeable earlier.

It also tweaks a few costs especially of Cavalry which is less Resource heavy and boosts the hoof attacks in many cases so they actually become quite useful. And Archers in general are slightly worse.

So the game with CBM1.3 won't be radically different, but the none optimal spell options/ pretenders/ troops etc are better and therefore the picks people make are likely to be more varied. It is therefore actually better for beginners as it 'softens' the less optimal picks.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 04:32 PM

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Hmm well I am sick of Wyrms and Fire Brands or whatever they're called so that all sounds good to me. Do people really shy away from those cheap human-type pretenders? They seem pretty good to me already. I had a Freak Lord in Aquarium that was a terrible killer of men, despite his low hit point count and eventual plethora of crippling injuries. Anyway it'll be interesting to maybe see a few sea dogs for once!

I plan to start the game tonight sometime.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 10:07 PM

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Default Re: Sovarinthy - an EA game for somewhat busy people (not recruiting; prepare your go

Here is the map. If you see major problems in it, please tell me. If you are troubled by minor quirks in it, please ask the Dominions 3 developers to allow automatic generation of wrapping maps.
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Old September 13th, 2008, 11:54 PM

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I'm having some troubles getting the map onto LlamaServer, but anyhow you can still start making your pretenders. Note that you'll need CBM installed in order to do that, since the mod affects pretender forms. You can find it here: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...98&postcount=1

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Old September 14th, 2008, 12:56 AM

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Okay I can't get the map up on LlamaServer (I'm using a modem and it keeps timing out). Can somebody do it for me? You just have to go here: http://www.llamaserver.net/uploadMap.cgi
and do what it says--upload the .map file, and then the .tga file, and then I guess you'll probably have to provide a description or something, I forget how it works but there's not much to it. Here, say this: This is a randomly created map, updated mostly trivially so that it wraps. It has 258 provinces and is 1400 x 1400 pixels large.

ALSO you have to tell it what post has the map attached. You can just follow the instructions the site gives you, it's easy. But anyway I think the ID it wants is this: 638215

If you decide to upload the map, please announce in the thread that you're doing it so that only one person actually tries it.

Thanks for any help.
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I have tried but when I upload the .tga file I get this message:

Received file does not appear to be a valid image file. Please check you used the correct file and try again.

So I'm afraid I'm stuck.... You may want to contact Llama. Or if you are not completely wedded to the map pick another? The map appears to be a standard wrap around random. There are a number of them about the same size already on Llama. But of course you will then lose all the work you spent making the map.

PS. I think I am doing the uploading correct. The .map file works then when I upload the image (the .tga) it uploads but I get that error message.

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Old September 14th, 2008, 04:38 AM
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I am sure someone else or Llamabeast himself will be able to help get the map uploaded. But if you decide to go for an alternative here are some choices already on LlamaServer.

Your map:

Sovarinthy: 233 land + 26 Sea (Wrap)

Possibles:

Alexander 247 Land + 43 Sea (Wrap). There are two water nations so extra sea is not bad perhaps?
Mistletoe 222 Land + 30 Sea (Wrap). A new 'random' set up for a game a week or two ago with very similar dimentions to yours.

None Wraps:

Glory of God Multiplayer: 227 land + 47 Sea. Very popular map.
AomOrc 3.01: 227 land + 32 Sea. If you like unusual graphic maps!

Orania has perhaps too little sea (just 20) but is a commonly used wrap about the same size. Or you could squeeze us all in to Cradle
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Default Re: Sovarinthy - an EA game for somewhat busy people (not recruiting; prepare your go

Ok so we are using CBM 1.3, right?

Worthy heroes is also a good mod that would be fun to include.
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CBM 1.3 includes Worthy Heroes
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Thanks for the attempt Hoplosternum. My map isn't that great, so I'll accept this as a training effort (I learned a few more things about how not to make random wrapping maps!) and use one of the maps you suggest. (I'll also send a message to llamabeast so he knows there's some kind of problem, but that need not delay this game.)

Anyway I like the looks of Alexander. Here's the link to that one: http://dom3maps.wikidot.com/system:alexander
Sorry for the confusion people!

Also, does anybody know what the logic is for whether you can edit a post? I seem to be able to edit some posts and not others, and I don't understand why. But in the meantime: HEY EVERYBODY PLEASE IGNORE THE MAP I UPLOADED AND USE ALEXANDER INSTEAD: http://dom3maps.wikidot.com/system:alexander
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