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				October 6th, 2008, 04:05 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running 
 The game crashed?! So I wasted three hours in that turn?!  
No matter whether we roll it back I have to redo last turn?!   Another three hours?!  |  
	
		
	
	
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				October 6th, 2008, 06:34 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running 
 I don't think you have to redo the entire turn, you just need to access the old turn you have laying around, and go to click "end of turn" to rebuild it. At the very least.
 Sometimes this doesn't help.
 
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				October 7th, 2008, 05:11 AM
			
			
			
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		| Hello from the LlamaServer. 
 I received an e-mail from you, but unfortunately there seems to be a problem with it.
 
 Your 2h file seems to be for a different turn number to the one the game's currently on. The 2h file is for turn 58, while the game is now on turn 59.
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				October 7th, 2008, 06:25 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running 
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				 Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running 
 Okay, I'm just working finally on answering Wraithlord's questions. I'd normally be a little disinclined to, as it's a fairly long job, but if his turn took 3 hours(!), well, then I'm happy to make a bit of an effort.
 Right, here's the error:
 N�got gick fel!
 mapmove: bad unr
 N�got gick fel!
 mapmove: bad unr
 Aborted
 
 And... having tried by a process of elimination, it's Tien Ch'i's 2h file that breaks the hosting. Only he will need to resubmit.
 
 I'll submit the files to Johan. Repeatable crashes are a valuable commodity. And thankfully a rare one too.
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				 Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running 
 So, to be clear, what you need to do is:
 - Roll back to last turn
 - Have T'ien Ch'i send in his turn. No-one else needs to.
 - Force hosting, even though most players will be on "Waiting for 2h file". The server has the files and will use them, so it'll be fine.
 
 T'ien Ch'i should redo his turn from scratch to minimise the chances of a repeat.
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				 Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running 
 WOW. I'm out of words. bravo    llamabeast. I have asked the Qs not really expecting an answer b/c I assumed there's work entailed. Then you went and actually checked and found the error. Really amazing, both your willingness to help and finding the root cause.
 
On a lighter note. I knew it was evil TC who crashed the turn    It happens b/c he has too many SCs, lands and income. I have a solution for TC, give me some of your lands, that will make your turns crash free    
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				 Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running 
 It's a critical time...and TC planed to throw a lot of ritual spells into Patala capital...may that cause the problem? I mean, is there any limit like you can't cast more than x spells at one province?
 I'll reduce the amount of missiles...lucky you WL...
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				 Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running 
 MX has been banned.
 We owe thanks to WraithLord who raised concerns about MX's extraordinary success in the game. To WraithLord's credit he did so with considerable trepidation and did not wish to make allegations, but just to reassure himself that all was well. I took a look at some of MX's turn files, and found that he had been cheating.
 
 I won't say exactly how he'd been cheating, because that would be stupid, but suffice to say that his 2h files had been tampered with, and much of his success in this game (and probably in his other game, Fools) was a result of that tampering. I sent the files straight away to JK who confirmed that the files had been tampered with. He's already made a fix, so that from the next patch such cheating will no longer be possible.
 
 Unlike Norfleet, the infamous cheater of Dom2, MX seems to have been very subtle, and it took me a while to find things which were definitely wrong, rather than just impressive for the turn number. We were lucky to catch him.
 
 Although I've banned MX (with lch's and JK's approval), I will send him an e-mail to see if he has anything to say for himself. That seems only fair.
 
 I'm sorry that your game will have been really rather fouled up by all this. Anyway, in a moment I will roll the game back to last turn, and replace MX's turn with an order to set T'ien Ch'i to AI. Then I'll force hosting and you can resume the game. Incidentally it could well have been some error in MX's tampering which caused the crash on last turn. I don't know.
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				 Re: LA Game - Victoria - Running 
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