I hate horrors

[MaxWilson]

Originally Posted by NTJedi

What's truly terrible about the horror marks is that every time the pretender or mage is attacked by a horror then most horrors have an attack which add additional horror_mark levels!! Its those astral claws.
There's no chance of hope or healing those horror marks... even the spell of WISH will not work.

Well, kind of. With enough pearls you can Wish yourself a replacement pretender, Gift of Reason him, and Empower his magic levels up to whatever level. Plus, then you no longer lose hit points and MR and enemy Dominion, unless you prophetize your new "pretender."

Yeah, I know, not very cost-effective. But if MY liege lord got horror-marked badly enough I would overthrow him.

-Max

[Tifone]

Originally Posted by TwoBits

...the Devourer of Eyeballs...

Damn, we totally need a Doomie with this name

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Totally unrequested opinion - I totally love the whole Horrors thing.
Totally.

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Tifone

Damn, we totally need a Doomie with this name

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Totally unrequested opinion - I totally love the whole Horrors thing.
Totally.

I actually have such a unit, and such a commander in my Yomi mod...

[HoneyBadger]

Let's see...new doom horror names...

The Doom-Banger
The Skull Emulsifier
The Pain Dimension
It Who Must Not Be Described
Whuppass, Juicer of Worlds
Hell's Garden Service
10-Pin Nation-Bowler
The 9 eyed, 9 horned, Shiny Happy People Eater

[Herode]

Hmmm... The Cindesuckerella One ?

Hooooooooooooooooooo, yes, I confess : I love Horrors

[Tifone]

Originally Posted by Herode

Hooooooooooooooooooo, yes, I confess : I love Horrors

Yeah! Me too! Think, my ex-gf was called the Maker of Ruins. That's what she made of our relationship

[markmayhugh]

I am unsure why this thread is so long. If I understand correctly:

If

1. the Pretender scripts Returning
2. and has two astral gems on hand
3. and is not at his home province (so keep him elsewhere)

Then

as defender he gets to cast Returning first, and no horror (or any other assassination attempt) can touch him under any circumstances. So no death, additional horror marks, or any other negative consequence. There is the one turn penalty of having to move back out of the home province next turn, after restocking Astral gems.

Is this correct? If so, then problem solved, so I can't understand why one would worry about bodyguards or any other less effective method of protection or evasion. If not, can someone enlighten me?

[thejeff]

Well, it does mean you can't use him on the battlefield: scripted Returning isn't very helpful in battle.

Though your solution is fine if you just want him casting rituals/forging etc.
In fact, it's even easier. IIRC, special battles, like assassinations & horror attacks take place in a special province, so Returning works even if you leave him at home.

[vfb]

You can get attacked by horrors more than once in the same month, if AC is up and you are horror marked or are in the HoF, and you cast/forge non-blood.

But most of the time if you are forging/casting rituals, and you god/mage has astral, it's safe to script returning. That's what I do usually, because you never know when something really nasty will show up.

[NTJedi]

Originally Posted by markmayhugh

I am unsure why this thread is so long.

This is a very old thread you unburried... there's plenty of very long threads which are dead.

Originally Posted by markmayhugh

If I understand correctly:

If

1. the Pretender scripts Returning
2. and has two astral gems on hand
3. and is not at his home province (so keep him elsewhere)

Then

as defender he gets to cast Returning first, and no horror (or any other assassination attempt) can touch him under any circumstances. So no death, additional horror marks, or any other negative consequence. There is the one turn penalty of having to move back out of the home province next turn, after restocking Astral gems.

Is this correct? If so, then problem solved, so I can't understand why one would worry about bodyguards or any other less effective method of protection or evasion. If not, can someone enlighten me?

Your suggestion works if the pretender has astral magic... not all pretenders will have astral. Second problem is your suggestion permanently prevents the pretender from being available for any battle on the map or even on the border for pushing dominion.