A couple of sneaky tricks

[Edi]

Hmm, then some of the flags lch has uncovered work differently than expected. Well, more info to puzzle out then. I may also remember some of that list of items wrong, so I need to go over it again.

[Gregstrom]

Originally Posted by vfb

[I wonder what happens if a slave collar-wearing caveman is snagged with an Enslave Mind then killed? Who could pick up the collars?

No-one, I suspect. The collar would likely disappear forever when the Enslave went off.

If he was Charmed, however...

[lch]

Originally Posted by Edi

Hmm, then some of the flags lch has uncovered work differently than expected. Well, more info to puzzle out then.

Things in brackets were unconfirmed guesses. Maybe it's something else then, or it doesn't work like expected, though that mechanic was the most reasonable thing to assume. Which Eye is never going to be picked up, vfb?

[Meursy]

Erm, wouldn't somebody with a slave collar be immune to Enslave Mind, being Mindless?

[Sombre]

Are they mindless? I thought they were just feebleminded and had boosted morale.

[JimMorrison]

Actually, we just recently had that discussion - that the Slave Collar would actually have a niche use if it gave the Mindless flag, which it currently does not.

[vfb]

Originally Posted by lch

Things in brackets were unconfirmed guesses. Maybe it's something else then, or it doesn't work like expected, though that mechanic was the most reasonable thing to assume. Which Eye is never going to be picked up, vfb?

Sorry, I have bad grammar!

Any item dropped by a friendly commander can be picked up by the army that wins the battle.

None of the 'restricted' items (Eyes, Contracts, Collars) Edi lists which have been dropped by an enemy commander can be picked up by the army that wins the battle.

[chrispedersen]

I agree with your analysis vfb; I do think you can only pick up those items from *your* side.

I would prefer to see that they wouldnt be picked up at all.

I've had commanders go blind from picking up two of them =(.