Principe - EA Machiavellian newbie game - Game started! - Page 27

Illuminated One · #**261** January 4th, 2009, 09:50 AM

I'm glad you didn't drop out.

I was a bit worried that I'd have to fight AI again.
Sorry that I didn't extend the turn I came back only after hosting.

Some notes on the situation from my view:

Sauromatia controls a large part of the north undisputed - much more lands than Marverni. While they claim to be peaceful they are delving deeply into dark sorcery. They are amassing Heliophagi probably also Tartarians.
Who can name all the horrors they will unleash upon the world once they have finished Agartha and Abysia?
We only hope to cleanse the world through the light of the northern star. And we must act now before the Agarthans and Abysians go extinct.
Of course it's about saving the virgins, too!

(Damn now I did the propaganda after all...

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lwarmonger · #**262** January 4th, 2009, 06:39 PM

LOL! Says the caster of Arcane Nexus! Every gem I expend to make myself more powerful, you get a piece of. If this were simply a battle of gold I would probably win, but since we are entering the late game it is a battle of magic, and I doubt I can scrape the gems together to dispel your arcane nexus and not have it come back!

And my "virgins" (we won't tell anyone) don't need saving. They are perfectly happy satisfying the needs of the Witch Kings!

Illuminated One · #**263** January 19th, 2009, 02:26 PM

Marverni and Niefelheim are allied the druids see no reason why there can't be two gods (especially if one of them is a druid).
So the twin gods Theag and Nemausius are asking the other pretenders to cede the world to them. Their battle is futile. They are now giving the chance to stop the bloodshed and evade the eternal punishment that awaits them should they prolong it.

Well, I'm getting close to the exams and will soon have too little time to continue this game. Taking a turn takes me more than 6 hours.

So I wanted to ask the other players if they want to continue this game or if they'd be willing to cede it.

Well, Marverni has Arcane Nexus as you all know and I should be able to get it back if it goes down or is taken over. I should be able to defend without it anyway. Against SCs I have Mind Hunt and Gifts of Heaven.
Against armies I have master enslave and I can take over undead as well.
Also I am at at least at level 4 in each path of magic and have researched to level 9 in every shool. I'm allied until the end with Mithras who confirmed that.
I don't think anyone stands a chance against us in the long run, but conquering everyone would take forever and I'd rather not start wishing for armageddon. Might of course be that I'm incorrect, but everyone seems to be more ravaged by the war than having an economy that can compete with AN and all the other stuff we have.

Please give me your opinion on this. If you decide to give up we could also keep the game running for a couple of turns just for fun so that everyone could try some of the things he didn't dare to do for real.

edit: If you read this please get the next turn in still, so that everyone gets my ingame message.

Mithras · #**264** January 19th, 2009, 02:45 PM

I'd just like to confirm that am allied to Illumintated One. Yes not the most moral of victories but I'd rather come a fairly safe second place than doom myself in a suicide attack in which I'm only nominally supported. Now I've thrown my lot in there doesn't seem much point changing my mind.

Tifone · #**265** January 19th, 2009, 04:52 PM

Damn, I really like you guys so it's hard for me to tell ya...

For this game you should decide *one* winner. He is *the* Principe, who outsmarted all his opponents and with force, influence, intelligence and true or cheating negotiates unified the land - as Machiavelli intended the true prince would have done with Italy...

I'd be glad if there is *one* Prince. It's ok for the others to remain alive and free, but all of the others must recognize his primate and his victory over them (i.e. Sauro or Ermor or Ulm might have some trump card they can't wait to play... this game was all directed towards the late-game so it could totally be a possibility)

Sorry if it might sound annoying... I just want to see the winner of the game

I also need it for the theme of the new game!

To compensate this I promise the sequel will allow a full alliance victory - the theme I have in mind will totally support this idea

(BTW if someone of you veterans is interested in the sequel you can start writing your preferences! The experience caps don't count for you!

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lwarmonger · #**266** January 19th, 2009, 06:48 PM

Sorry, but there can be only one, and while I'm not sure whether I can triumph against Marverni I know I could beat Niefelheim. As far as I can tell Mictlan and Sauromatia are the only two nations who have much blood at all, and while the game seems to be leaning towards the Marverni/Niefelheim axis it isn't there yet.

Illuminated One · #**267** January 19th, 2009, 08:44 PM

Et tu Brute!

Well, now I've painted a big bullseye upon my back.

Ok, I must blame it on myself I understood the thing about alliances wrong.
Well, I'm sorry Mithras this wasn't intended but this makes our alliance rather pointless in the long run.

Hmm, ok, I'll still play the next two or three turns but if the game isn't won by then I'd have to look for a sub. (Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...!)

Klepto · #**268** January 19th, 2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tifone

Sauro or Ermor or Ulm might have some trump card they can't wait to play

I wish I did. I expect to be knocked out next turn, crushed by the ice giants. Very well played Mithras, you certainly seem to understand this game better than me

Count me in for the sequel

Tifone · #**269** January 20th, 2009, 06:31 AM

Pointless alliance? Without that alliance you would have probably fought each other for years, becoming weaker for the joy of the others - not only that, you would not have created those nice stories (expecially Mithras' one of finding a reason for the god of the giants being a druid

). I think your alliance was maybe the most noticeable thing of the game... but well, of course you two will need in the end to decide who will be the Prince and who will... submit. (Unless you two are killed by someone else, of course

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What about the tricky Ulm? Don't we get the barbarians' opinion? They were kind of an early superpower, can't wait to know if they have some way to get the supremacy in the pocket...

Glad you'll be in Klepto!

Do I reserve you the spot for Ermor?

Illuminated One · #**270** January 20th, 2009, 09:43 AM

Yes, until now the alliance was good for both of us.
If it was allowed to hold I'm quite certain we had won. Mithras is quite strong himself and while I can of course only guess I think he is in a stronger position than lwarmonger.
But fighting together now until we are the last surviving players while everyone knows that there will be a point where he will be backstabbed. Everything set to the max was quite nice for the early game but I don't think it translates well into late game.
Noone can advance on every border and between evenly matched players I really seems to come down to the one player taking a couple of provinces and the other player taking a couple of provinces in an eternal stalemate. This is what I see between Mictlan and Ulm and what happens between Sauromatia and me.
If we start to fight now it will most likely screw Niefelheim, I see a chance to survive it and I'm not willing to risk him falling into my back when I'm in a bad position.
So I end the alliance now and keep the RoW, sorry Mithras this wasn't planned. It's bad for me too, but if the alliance can't hold it can't hold.